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Help please! alignment specs ? |
PatrickB |
Aug 2 2019, 06:52 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 249 Joined: 26-March 17 From: sw ontario Member No.: 20,960 Region Association: Canada |
At a shop to check alignment after some work. They don't have a spec for 914's . They do have 911 specs.... anyone know if they are the same ? I wouldn't think so but....
Can anyone point |
PatrickB |
Aug 2 2019, 06:54 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 249 Joined: 26-March 17 From: sw ontario Member No.: 20,960 Region Association: Canada |
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Gatornapper |
Aug 2 2019, 07:04 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,235 Joined: 22-September 17 From: Woods west of Richmond, VA Member No.: 21,449 Region Association: South East States |
At a shop to check alignment after some work. They don't have a spec for 914's . They do have 911 specs.... anyone know if they are the same ? I wouldn't think so but.... Can anyone point From 1976 Owner's Manual: Camber - Front: 0 deg. +/- 20' Rear: 30 deg. +/- 20' Toe-in: Front: +20' +/- 10' Rear: 0 deg. +15' (w/33 lbs. curb weight added) Caster angle (at curb weight): 6 deg. +/- 30' GN |
PatrickB |
Aug 2 2019, 07:44 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 249 Joined: 26-March 17 From: sw ontario Member No.: 20,960 Region Association: Canada |
Thanks! Pretty much the same as the 911 specs they found.
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dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Aug 2 2019, 09:12 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,896 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
It is 30 MINUTES neg camber in the rear and 0 in the front.
Make sure that you have correct height in the rear so you will not have to stack too many shims to achieve camber. (basically show three inches of tire between the wheel rim and the fender lip At a shop to check alignment after some work. They don't have a spec for 914's . They do have 911 specs.... anyone know if they are the same ? I wouldn't think so but.... Can anyone point From 1976 Owner's Manual: Camber - Front: 0 deg. +/- 20' Rear: 30 deg. +/- 20' Toe-in: Front: +20' +/- 10' Rear: 0 deg. +15' (w/33 lbs. curb weight added) Caster angle (at curb weight): 6 deg. +/- 30' GN |
SirAndy |
Aug 2 2019, 10:59 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,679 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
It is 30 MINUTES neg camber in the rear and 0 in the front. Camber - Front: 0 deg. +/- 20' Rear: 30 deg. +/- 20' 30 degrees would be a wee bit much ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
anderssj |
Aug 2 2019, 03:29 PM
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Dog is my copilot... Group: Members Posts: 1,664 Joined: 28-January 03 From: VA Member No.: 207 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I remember reading somewhere to always have at least half a tank of fuel when you get it aligned. Apparently the toe changes with weight in the front end...
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SirAndy |
Aug 2 2019, 03:39 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,679 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I just googled "excessive camber" and was not disappointed. Apparently, this really is a thing! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) https://www.google.com/search?q=excessive+c...661&bih=875 . .. |
JOEPROPER |
Aug 2 2019, 04:12 PM
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The answer is "no" unless you ask... Group: Members Posts: 1,184 Joined: 21-November 15 From: White Plains New York Member No.: 19,387 Region Association: North East States |
30 minutes = 0.5deg
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jcd914 |
Aug 2 2019, 04:13 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,081 Joined: 7-February 08 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 8,684 Region Association: Northern California |
I just googled "excessive camber" and was not disappointed. Apparently, this really is a thing! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) https://www.google.com/search?q=excessive+c...661&bih=875 . .. A few weeks ago I help my daughter move up from Long Beach to the Bay area. On the drive up I5 (me in my truck and my daughter and daughter in law in our Jetta) we were passed by a black Toyota sedan with the wheels cambered like that. When we stopped for lunch my daughter asked if I saw the "Stupid car", no further description was necessary to know what car she was talking about. Latter in the day we passed the same Toyota broken down along the highway. Jim |
Retroracer |
Aug 3 2019, 12:09 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 7-July 13 From: Bend OR Member No.: 16,100 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I referenced this article when setting up my car:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act...t&id=363723 FYI. - Tony |
Mark Henry |
Aug 3 2019, 03:53 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Best I could do in my 914 on the front was -.5 camber, for caster I run as much as I can which IIRC was 7 degrees. I couldn't get any more caster or less camber without break out the grinder. You don't run more than -.75 camber on a street car or you will get abnormal tire wear.
More caster makes it run straighter, but the trade off is it gets harder to turn at parking speeds. |
Superhawk996 |
Aug 3 2019, 04:00 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,900 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
I just googled "excessive camber" and was not disappointed. Apparently, this really is a thing! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) https://www.google.com/search?q=excessive+c...661&bih=875 . .. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) If something can be done in bad taste, there is always someone willing to up the ante and take it to the extreme no matter how undrivable it might be! |
ClayPerrine |
Aug 4 2019, 07:51 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,520 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
I just googled "excessive camber" and was not disappointed. Apparently, this really is a thing! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) https://www.google.com/search?q=excessive+c...661&bih=875 . .. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) If something can be done in bad taste, there is always someone willing to up the ante and take it to the extreme no matter how undrivable it might be! It is called "Stance" and apparently it is a fad these days. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) Negative camber is good if you are racing, but most cars don't spend all their time in hard corners. So all it does is over stresses the sidewalls of the tires and eats up the wheel bearings. Plus, even for racing you don't need that much camber. Wikipedia link on Stanced cars "Form is greater than function in stance culture." " In the stance community, some owners run up to 45° of negative camber to achieve the stance they are looking for." Just a fad, like the tiny tires stuck way outside the fenders, Donks, and alike. |
JamesM |
Aug 8 2019, 07:08 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,915 Joined: 6-April 06 From: Kearns, UT Member No.: 5,834 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
It is called "Stance" and apparently it is a fad these days. "Form is greater than function in stance culture." Its been big around here for a while (actually think its starting to go away, thank god) I never thought someone would come up with a more ridiculous car trend than the "fast and furious" coffee can exhaust cars in 90s, but they somehow managed. Not sure what is worse, what they do with the camber or what they do to their poor tires. Both form and function is just terrible. |
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