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post Aug 8 2019, 08:26 AM
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Bestone914@aol.com Bruce Stone in Riverside, Ca. Sold be two rebuild-able rear calipers. I paid in full for them. I received them and they had rusted and pitted pistons and bores and could not be rebuilt. They were good for core exchange only. I call Bruce Stone and he instructed me to return them at my expense and he would refund the cost only. I returned them , paying the postage. $24.
He will not return my calls or emails. I called and emailed him over twenty times in the last 60 days. He went totally silent. This is bull shit!

Beware of this guy!!!
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post Aug 8 2019, 08:30 AM
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Slow your roll ! Bruce is a legit guy . He helps out the whole community!
I’m sure he’ll make it right. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png)
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post Aug 8 2019, 08:54 AM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) There must be another side to this story that isn't told here. He's always been a standup member.
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post Aug 8 2019, 09:01 AM
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If they were as you say “good for core” they are rebuildable. This isn’t adding up...
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post Aug 8 2019, 09:09 AM
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I will have to second that Bruce will make it right.

Anytime you buy and sell a used part there is a chance that in a part that is pushing 50-years old something might not be known about the part at the time of the buy or sale. We all should keep this in mind every time we buy.

First I would never rebuild brakes on a 914. We have people (Eric at PMB Performance) that are real experts and overall you get the best safety going that route. Especially on the rears.

The solution for paying the shipping is perfectly reasonable as both parties took a chance on the parts. If you wanted to be 100% they were not pitted you would have asked to see a photo of the pistons and if Bruce wanted to be sure he could have inspected before shipping.

I had a similar issue once, not with Bruce, where I had sent stuff to the wrong address. Not saying that happened but sometimes there are multiple reasons for the mix-up.

But Your best bet is still going through PMB.
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post Aug 8 2019, 09:13 AM
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I would suggest you send them to PMB to be rebuilt as you probably don't have the experience with 914 calipers that you needed to make your claim.

The bore of the caliper is just a guide. It can have minor pitting and work just fine.

We almost never reuse the factory pistons as they are always rusty and pitted.

As with most new 914 owners, what you think is junk may be the exact opposite.

Bruce is an upstanding member of our community so for you to come in making accusations on your 4th post ever is a bit much.
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post Aug 8 2019, 09:26 AM
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Contacted 20 times after returning the parts and 0 on the other end? Other vendors would have been roasted alive. The buyer seems to have done as told and returned them on his nickle. So shipping both ways for what turns out to be scrap? If they were bought as rebuildable cores that's not the buyers fault. I don't think PMB can rebuild EVERY caliper that comes thru the doors.
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post Aug 8 2019, 09:27 AM
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I just checked Facebook. Bruce is In Cat Training School, learning how to herd cats... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Aug 8 2019, 09:41 AM
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Pretty funny. You missed your calling. You should have become a comedian.
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post Aug 8 2019, 09:51 AM
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Talked with Bruce, what the op didn't say is that he returned them with chisel damage to the pistons because his supposed mechanic didn't know what he was doing
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post Aug 8 2019, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Aug 8 2019, 12:41 PM) *

Pretty funny. You missed your calling. You should have become a comedian.


Once again genius, Bruce really is talking about Cat Training School on Facebook.
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post Aug 8 2019, 10:18 AM
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Just saying....Bruce wouldn't purposely take advantage of anyone. He is a great asset to our community. Something does not add up. ???

He lives about an hour away and can often be found in my garage on weekends working on member cars...free of charge. That's the Bruce I know and cherish.

my 2 cents...

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post Aug 8 2019, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Aug 8 2019, 09:16 AM) *

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Aug 8 2019, 12:41 PM) *

Pretty funny. You missed your calling. You should have become a comedian.


Once again genius, Bruce really is talking about Cat Training School on Facebook.


He works in data cataloging
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post Aug 8 2019, 10:34 AM
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..but regarding the inability to contact him when there's a problem with a sell - we have a similar conversation on a fairly regular basis around here, from what I've seen. Yet everyone still vouches for him (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) . So he probably is a great guy but could certainly do better if he's gonna bother to sell stuff and maintain his good reputation, jmho.
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post Aug 8 2019, 11:04 AM
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Honestly....posts like this serve no purpose.

The transaction is between two people and can be handled without getting up on a internet soapbox.

I am sure Bruce is able to tell the OP to pound sand on his own.

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post Aug 8 2019, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(Chi-town @ Aug 8 2019, 08:51 AM) *

Talked with Bruce, what the op didn't say is that he returned them with chisel damage to the pistons because his supposed mechanic didn't know what he was doing

Sounds about right. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) I remember when someone was slamming SoCal Andy over a sticker he was waiting on. Then I heard from Andy as to what really transpired. Regardless, I judge folks by my personal dealings with them; not what others say. I once had a mechanic neighbor that screwed many folks. But for some reason he took a liking to me and offered any assistance needed to me every time. He even replaced a timing chain on my Dad's RV for free. A regular Prince to me so I had nothing but great experiences with him. Go figure? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Aug 8 2019, 11:26 AM
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"Genius"? Fuck you chubby.
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post Aug 8 2019, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(Chi-town @ Aug 8 2019, 07:51 AM) *

Talked with Bruce, what the op didn't say is that he returned them with chisel damage to the pistons because his supposed mechanic didn't know what he was doing



That sounds about right given the nature of the rears. Absolutely only want to let someone that knows what they are doing tear down a caliper. I have seen them tear apart a lot of calipers at PMB, dont ever recall them using a hammer and chisel!!!

Betting the OP wont respond to this thread now.
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post Aug 8 2019, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(ValcoOscar @ Aug 8 2019, 12:18 PM) *

Just saying....Bruce wouldn't purposely take advantage of anyone. He is a great asset to our community. Something does not add up. ???

He lives about an hour away and can often be found in my garage on weekends working on member cars...free of charge. That's the Bruce I know and cherish.

my 2 cents...

Oscar

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) 1000% I have first-hand experience of his generosity. I'm confident all will be right.
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post Aug 8 2019, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(914_teener @ Aug 8 2019, 10:04 AM) *

Honestly....posts like this serve no purpose.

The transaction is between two people and can be handled without getting up on a internet soapbox.



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With that being said I will also vouch for Bruce's integrity. I have purchased many parts including a full suspension set up that he spent more than 12 hours helping install. The 914 community benefits greatly from his knowledge and tech sessions too. Check out this set up compliments of Bruce!

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