Anyone recognize this old 914 E Prod racecar? |
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Anyone recognize this old 914 E Prod racecar? |
stownsen914 |
Jan 8 2020, 11:00 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 928 Joined: 3-October 06 From: Ossining, NY Member No.: 6,985 Region Association: None |
I randomly ran across this old 914 racecar in an ad while I was visiting Georgia for a reasonable price, so I went ahead and bought it. Does anyone recognize it? The seller had previously bought it in a parts lot from the fellow who raced it, so information is second hand and incomplete. I don't have contact info. for the guy who raced it. It seems to have run SCCA E Production in the 1980s and possibly the 70s, out of Georgia. It sat outside for a few months, so condition is rough, but I didn't see any terminal rust, and it seems to be complete.
I'm looking for information about the car. I'm hoping there may be some folks who are ex-racers or from the Georgia area who might be familiar with it. Thanks! Scott |
GregAmy |
Jan 8 2020, 11:43 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,389 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States |
Do you have the logbook with number? If not, look on the cage for it to be stamped somewhere. Format will be XXX-YYYY, where XXX indicates the SCCA Region that initially issued the logbook.
Tell me the region number and I can get you contact info for the Chief of Tech. They can review their records to get initial logbook info. |
stownsen914 |
Jan 8 2020, 12:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 928 Joined: 3-October 06 From: Ossining, NY Member No.: 6,985 Region Association: None |
Thanks Greg. I don't have the logbook. The guy I bought it from doesn't remember getting it when he picked up the car. The original owner may still have it … hopefully. So I hope to find him so I can ask more details about the car, and ideally get the log book too.
I'll look at the cage more carefully. It's not stored locally for the time being, so I won't be able to look at that for a while unfortunately. |
Charles Freeborn |
Jan 8 2020, 02:06 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 256 Joined: 21-May 14 From: United States Member No.: 17,377 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I randomly ran across this old 914 racecar in an ad while I was visiting Georgia for a reasonable price, so I went ahead and bought it. Does anyone recognize it? The seller had previously bought it in a parts lot from the fellow who raced it, so information is second hand and incomplete. I don't have contact info. for the guy who raced it. It seems to have run SCCA E Production in the 1980s and possibly the 70s, out of Georgia. It sat outside for a few months, so condition is rough, but I didn't see any terminal rust, and it seems to be complete. I'm looking for information about the car. I'm hoping there may be some folks who are ex-racers or from the Georgia area who might be familiar with it. Thanks! Scott Looks a little like this one - but the front flares are different. Either way ping Jake Raby. He's in Georgia. http://aircooledtechnology.com/racing-engines/ |
stownsen914 |
Jan 9 2020, 07:48 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 928 Joined: 3-October 06 From: Ossining, NY Member No.: 6,985 Region Association: None |
Looks a little like this one - but the front flares are different. Either way ping Jake Raby. He's in Georgia. http://aircooledtechnology.com/racing-engines/ Thanks for that. I believe that car is Len Hoffman's, who works with Jake. It's a different car, but I've reached out to Len to see if he recognizes the car. |
GregAmy |
Jan 9 2020, 08:04 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,389 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States |
If that one actually is Len's ( @HAM Inc ) car, then it's now /6-equipped and in the hands of the 2016/2019 EProd National Champion.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=336500 Every time I see Kip I give him grief about not running it instead of his 944S2, he says they're "working on it"... |
old914dog |
Jan 9 2020, 03:13 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 28-August 04 From: dallas,tx Member No.: 2,643 Region Association: None |
This is not Lynn Hoffman's old car in my humble opinion. His did not have headlights. I had the car for a couple of years. I do believe it is now a 6 and racing from Forida.
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stownsen914 |
Jan 9 2020, 04:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 928 Joined: 3-October 06 From: Ossining, NY Member No.: 6,985 Region Association: None |
To be clear, I know that the car I bought is not Len's old car. I am trying to figure out who raced it and/or any other history on the car. Thanks to those who chimed in so far.
Scott |
GregAmy |
Jan 9 2020, 04:24 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,389 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States |
To be clear....
If that one actually is Len's car... ...was referring to this... Looks a little like this one - but the front flares are different. http://aircooledtechnology.com/racing-engines/ ...which was Len's car. |
HAM Inc |
Jan 9 2020, 06:34 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 846 Joined: 24-July 06 From: Watkinsville,GA Member No.: 6,499 Region Association: None |
It's not my old car.
I don't know who's car that was. It looks like it has a SARRC decal on the side, which was the bunch I ran with, but it wasn't active when I was 2007-2010. I sold my car in 2011. My hunch is the car in the photo's has been sitting for a while. |
stownsen914 |
Jan 9 2020, 08:34 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 928 Joined: 3-October 06 From: Ossining, NY Member No.: 6,985 Region Association: None |
Thanks guys ...
Greg - I realized what you meant. Perhaps I misunderstood another comment and thought the thread was going adrift, lol. Let’s see if anyone else recognizes the car in the first post. Also appreciate any leads to people in the southeast who raced in the 1970s or 80s who might know about the car. Scott |
stownsen914 |
Feb 14 2020, 10:22 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 928 Joined: 3-October 06 From: Ossining, NY Member No.: 6,985 Region Association: None |
Quick update - I am in touch with the former owner / racer of the car. Apparently SCCA has been assembling a database of scanned historical materials like race results, logbooks, and other records. I ran across a contact for the team that is doing this, and put in a request along with the limited info. I had. A couple weeks they came back with the name of the former owner. I googled the name, and luckily he was still in Georgia and I gave him a call. He still has some paperwork for the car that I'm hopefully going to get soon.
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SirAndy |
Feb 18 2020, 06:17 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,854 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Quick update - I am in touch with the former owner / racer of the car. Apparently SCCA has been assembling a database of scanned historical materials like race results, logbooks, and other records. I ran across a contact for the team that is doing this, and put in a request along with the limited info. I had. A couple weeks they came back with the name of the former owner. I googled the name, and luckily he was still in Georgia and I gave him a call. He still has some paperwork for the car that I'm hopefully going to get soon. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) |
HAM Inc |
Feb 18 2020, 06:23 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 846 Joined: 24-July 06 From: Watkinsville,GA Member No.: 6,499 Region Association: None |
Quick update - I am in touch with the former owner / racer of the car. Apparently SCCA has been assembling a database of scanned historical materials like race results, logbooks, and other records. I ran across a contact for the team that is doing this, and put in a request along with the limited info. I had. A couple weeks they came back with the name of the former owner. I googled the name, and luckily he was still in Georgia and I gave him a call. He still has some paperwork for the car that I'm hopefully going to get soon. That's great. Is the owner okay with us knowing his name? I'd love to know if it's someone I knew. |
stownsen914 |
Feb 20 2020, 10:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 928 Joined: 3-October 06 From: Ossining, NY Member No.: 6,985 Region Association: None |
I'm checking with him. Will report back ...
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stownsen914 |
Feb 28 2020, 09:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 928 Joined: 3-October 06 From: Ossining, NY Member No.: 6,985 Region Association: None |
I confirmed with the prior owner that he's fine with me sharing his name here. His name is Terry Booth. He raced the car in SCCA approx. 1981-1988. Terry was kind enough to send me the original SCCA logbook. Below are the pics from the logbook. The car looks pretty much the same now, just a little weathered. I am hoping to get to work on the car this coming winter once I finish up another project.
Turns out Terry is on 914world. I'm going to send him a link to this thread, maybe he'll chime in. |
GregAmy |
Feb 29 2020, 06:34 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,389 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States |
Good find.
That logbook is invaluable, as the rollcage regs have changed over the years. WIth the logbook you can grandfather to the old ones. There's still a few things you'll have to change but that logbook helps a lot. Good luck on the refurb! |
HAM Inc |
Feb 29 2020, 06:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 846 Joined: 24-July 06 From: Watkinsville,GA Member No.: 6,499 Region Association: None |
Very cool that you have the log book.
Are you going to run vintage, or scca once you get it restored? |
stownsen914 |
Mar 1 2020, 07:11 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 928 Joined: 3-October 06 From: Ossining, NY Member No.: 6,985 Region Association: None |
I am thinking more likely vintage. Making a run in SCCA would be interesting, but if I did it, I'd want do it for real, and that would be a big, expensive effort.
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sixnotfour |
Mar 1 2020, 02:08 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,598 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
kind of a grocery getter,, compared to your other 914?
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