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| GaroldShaffer |
Apr 21 2020, 08:10 PM
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You bought another 914? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 7,643 Joined: 27-June 03 From: Portage, IN Member No.: 865 Region Association: None
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So, I sold my racecar and now have some $$ to burn. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) I recently upgraded my harbor freight sand blasting cabinet to a bigger / nicer model. Now next on my list is a good mig welder. Its been a looooooong time since I have done any real sort of welding.
Looking for recommendations on what others have used while doing restoration work on your 914s. I have a 74 Bumble Bee project that will need new floor pans, battery tray and more I am sure once I really start digging into it. My budget is $1500 max (new) or the best used one I can find for less. I know (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif) Here is my bumble bee project. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Attached image(s)
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| Tdskip |
Apr 21 2020, 08:21 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None
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I bought a mid range Hobart MIG and really love it. It’s worth the money to get a good one, I find that making sure I can run on home power opens up a lot of places to use it, and definitely gas.
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| bkrantz |
Apr 21 2020, 09:16 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,646 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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I like my 120 v Hobart MIG. Not much power, so it is easier to use on sheet metal. I also have an Eastwood TIG, that handles thick stock.
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| bbrock |
Apr 21 2020, 09:33 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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I also run a 120v Hobart Handler I've owned about 35 years.
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| Unobtanium-inc |
Apr 21 2020, 09:49 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 29-November 06 From: New York Member No.: 7,276 Region Association: None
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I had a Miller for about 15 years and this year it starting sputtering out. I picked up a Vulcan at Harbor Freight. I waited for a sale and it was about $700. It came highly recommended by my metal guy. It is impressive and it's multi use so I can TIG with it once I learn that, which I will to work with aluminum.
https://www.harborfreight.com/welding/welde...nput-63621.html Attached thumbnail(s) |
| tygaboy |
Apr 21 2020, 09:53 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,803 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California
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If your primary focus is sheet metal work, take a look at the Miller Millermatic 141. It's got some nice features that work well for the typical repairs you're likely to make.
https://www.millerwelds.com/equipment/welde...g-welder-m00486 I have the 211 model but I do some structural work on thicker material for the yard art stuff. That said, if I was buying again, I think I'd go with the 141. @Cary had the 141, or maybe an earlier, similar model. Maybe he can weigh in on his experience with it? |
| cary |
Apr 21 2020, 10:07 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Yes I use a Miller 141 everyday. Love it for sheet metal, I have a 220v 180 too.
But I'm welding 16ga on Matt's #88 right now and it works like a dream. |
| Andyrew |
Apr 21 2020, 10:46 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,380 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Any of the big names with gas. 110 will be fine...
I've welded some crazy stuff with my 110. It's 90% practice and 10% welder... Oh and grinders are amazing tools... |
| 911GT2 |
Apr 22 2020, 03:19 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 2-March 11 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 12,773 Region Association: Europe
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Any of the big names with gas. 110 will be fine... I've welded some crazy stuff with my 110. It's 90% practice and 10% welder... Oh and grinders are amazing tools... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Practice is more important. But if your machine is too cheap you won't be able to get some good welds in. |
| Mark Henry |
Apr 22 2020, 05:30 AM
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that's what I do! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Over 25 years with a Canox 130, which is a Miller 130. The machine itself has never been serviced but I think I'm on the 2nd whip now. That said it's been used hard.
You want a argo mix gas and at least a 4 foot bottle. |
| mb911 |
Apr 22 2020, 07:20 AM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,730 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Hobart and Miller are the same company just as an FYI .. I like the hobart handler as a very nice inexpensive welder for auto related parts.. There is Nothing on a 914 that the handler can't weld. And at 500 it saves some good money that can go towards sheet metal.. Garold make the decision will you be doing any other types of welding projects in the future that would require anything else?
The lincoln mp210 is a really nice multi process welder.. Note I am a national trainer for NC3/ Lincoln welding instructor education so I have used a wide variety of equipment.. My vote budget 500 and never look back.. |
| jaredmcginness |
Apr 22 2020, 07:24 AM
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I've completed a floor and long replacement with a used $300 craigslist Lincoln 140 MIG. Love it and easy to use.
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| Lg914 |
Apr 22 2020, 08:50 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: 4-July 19 From: Lake Geneva Member No.: 23,275 Region Association: None |
We have used the Eastwood 250 and the Eastwood 250i multiprocess. Both work well. All their welders have a 3 year warranted. But even better is their lifetime satisfaction guarantee. They may not be high end professional but their price point and quality are good.
We had been using their 250 multiprocess for two years and liked it. But my wife and I decided we wanted some more features tor the tig welding. So they took it back, after having it for two years, without question. Highly Recommend. They even have a 20% off coupon this wine for use on one item. The store for pickup is in Alsip Illinois. Not very far from you. You can call the store and talk to them. |
| Andyrew |
Apr 22 2020, 09:20 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,380 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Oh I just saw your 1500 budget... way to big of a budget..
With that kind of a budget I would really consider Unobtainiums option of a multi use welder. Having the option to tig something years down the line is really good. Eastwood has something like it for a decent price as LG mentioned Just know real estate becomes really important with big machines like a welder. Personally I would jump on something like the Vulcan. |
| mepstein |
Apr 22 2020, 09:22 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,587 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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I imagine some of the budget will be used for gas, tools, materials and protective equipment.
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| Rand |
Apr 22 2020, 09:23 AM
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| preach |
Apr 22 2020, 09:27 AM
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Ridge Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,085 Joined: 27-March 10 From: Live Free or Die Member No.: 11,513 Region Association: North East States
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I run a Hobart 175 in 220v. Does everything I have needed from roll cages to sheet metal. Bought it when they went from 175 to 185. Paid right around $500. Many parts say Miller on them, more plastic bits than a Miller and the equivalent Miller is infinitely adjustable whereas the Hobart only have a few settings (absolutely fine for me).
I want to learn how to TIG. |
| Nogoodwithusernames |
Apr 22 2020, 09:33 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 305 Joined: 31-May 16 From: Sutter, CA Member No.: 20,051 Region Association: None |
I've personally had the little Home Depot version of Lincoln's MIG welder in my garage for probably 6 years or so. It's always been just fine for my little projects and have had no issues with it so far. If I were to get another I would try and get one with a little more adjustability but for <$500 I am not complaining. So far I've run 100% CO2 and never mixed gas and my welds are usually fairly clean once it's dialed in for material I'm welding. Here's a photo of a recent sheet metal project for my VW T4 conversion.
Tacked together, probably about 20+" of weld on that piece. Finished product. Also @Unobtanium-inc you may or may not have any luck welding aluminum with that. AC current is ideal for aluminum though you can weld some kinds (read alloys) with DC, just make sure you do some research before buying material and you should be okay. |
| Andyrew |
Apr 22 2020, 12:32 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,380 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Any of the big names with gas. 110 will be fine... I've welded some crazy stuff with my 110. It's 90% practice and 10% welder... Oh and grinders are amazing tools... Good welds don't get grinders. Yes they do! Chassis sheet metal and body panels get grinders. Good welds don’t have impurities, have excellent penetration and low splatter... |
| Andyrew |
Apr 22 2020, 12:36 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,380 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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I imagine some of the budget will be used for gas, tools, materials and protective equipment. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Good point, a tank will be $200, helmet $50 from harbor freight (yes it’s good enough), and a couple sets of glove $40. $100 in steel to build your own welding cart (this should be the first project.....) $30 for a grinder and $30 for a some cutting disks, grinding disks, and assorted flap wheels. Harbor freight is your friend for the first timer. |
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