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Newbie rust question |
zprovo |
Oct 30 2020, 03:37 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 16-September 20 From: Nashville TN Member No.: 24,697 Region Association: South East States |
Hello!
I am new to the world of 914s. I was looking at a car on sunday that had good longs, the hellhole looked good, floors looked good (the interior is pulled out). All the exterior sheetmetal is nice and straight. Then I popped the hood to the "frunk". There was a big hole in what I would call the passenger side firewall...what is this called in a mid engine car? Picture for reference below I think this is the area where the windshield washer bottle would usually reside. There are a few smaller holes under where the gas tank should be and the pedal box is pretty rusty. Apparently mice had taken up residence, chewed up the wiring and created a bunch of rust while relieving themselves. How scared should I be of this car? It's been sitting for 31 years, I can handle the myriad of mechanical and electrical issues this car will have, but I will probably need to sub out the rust work. Thanks in advance for any thoughts. I don't know why I can't get this to load with the correct orientation... that is the hood spring on the lower left for reference and passenger door beyond. |
Tdskip |
Oct 30 2020, 03:49 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
First of all - welcome!
That is going to be non-trivial to repair. Looks like something was cut for an accessory - one of the curves is neat and clearly not rust caused. My guess is it was cut and not properly protected and then rust took hold. You really need to understand how far that rust extends. Unless it is really inexpensive it might be better to start with a car without that issue. |
mepstein |
Oct 30 2020, 03:53 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,313 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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brcacti |
Oct 30 2020, 04:01 PM
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1974 914 1.8 Group: Members Posts: 674 Joined: 17-July 19 From: PHX AZ 60 miles south Member No.: 23,302 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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brant |
Oct 30 2020, 04:01 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,639 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
my first impression is "scary"
I'd take a magnet to the longs, (pull the rockers) might be worth finding a different one. |
zprovo |
Oct 30 2020, 05:07 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 16-September 20 From: Nashville TN Member No.: 24,697 Region Association: South East States |
Thank you all for the guidance!
My brain said to walk away...then the devil started whispering in my ear that maybe it would be ok... |
Costa05 |
Oct 30 2020, 06:25 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 320 Joined: 27-October 16 From: Phoenix, Arizona Member No.: 20,535 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I would look closer at the pedal cluster. Mine was rusted solid and the base sheet metal was completely rusted through. Not an easy repair. Very spendy unless you know fabrication and can weld.
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cary |
Oct 30 2020, 08:05 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Urine damage from rat of mice nest.................. BTDT
Taylor Whitesell's car (914 Rubber) |
Mikey914 |
Oct 31 2020, 06:59 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,678 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
First of all welcome (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png)
Here’s the thread of the experience we had from our experience. The key is what’s under the tank. Give this thread a good look. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...r+thanks+to+Wes |
wes |
Oct 31 2020, 08:20 PM
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wes Group: Members Posts: 1,589 Joined: 8-December 07 From: Ukiah Ca Member No.: 8,436 Region Association: Northern California |
Urine damage from rat of mice nest.................. BTDT Taylor Whitesell's car (914 Rubber) I believe that was the Parts car I gave away! First Hint, Terrible smell. After taking the gas tank out pulled out Enough rat piss stained rib bones to nearly Fill a 5 gallon bucket. |
Gint |
Nov 1 2020, 05:53 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,083 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
That's disgusting. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif)
I would pass on that. And (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) @zprovo If you're close enough, I'd ask Perry Kiehl @IronHillrestorations if you could visit. |
mlindner |
Nov 1 2020, 06:25 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,528 Joined: 11-November 11 From: Merrimac, WI Member No.: 13,770 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
zprovo, do you have pictures of the rest of the car. Mark
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Cairo94507 |
Nov 1 2020, 06:28 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,822 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Welcome to the madness. All of these cars are going to have some rust that needs repairing. The trick is to find one with as little rust as possible. Several have already said it, but get a magnet and check the remainder of the car for covered up rust. What are they asking for that car? Free? Then maybe not bad given you would at least have to replace that panel. But that would be a pain in the rear replacement job. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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IronHillRestorations |
Nov 1 2020, 09:35 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,730 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
Find a better chassis. Thanks for the referral @Gint but I'm not taking any work until I get moved to east TN and build a shop
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dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Nov 1 2020, 10:08 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,896 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
amazing what rat urine can do, there was once a very low mile six out there years ago that had the same damage, car was original paint and excellent except for that same area, rusted through! If that is the only rust it is a fairly easy repair, and the parts are readily available Rodents are very evil to a 914. Once we had to cut open a virgin longitudinal to find the smelly rotted rats and their nest. (reminded me of the urban legend about the very cheaply priced low mile corvette that would never sell because someone had died in and they could never get the smell out of it)
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zprovo |
Nov 2 2020, 09:39 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 16-September 20 From: Nashville TN Member No.: 24,697 Region Association: South East States |
First of all welcome (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Here’s the thread of the experience we had from our experience. The key is what’s under the tank. Give this thread a good look. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...r+thanks+to+Wes Whoa! Yea...I don't have the skillset, space, time, childcare, or balls to tackle a project like that! I am impressed sir! |
zprovo |
Nov 2 2020, 09:43 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 16-September 20 From: Nashville TN Member No.: 24,697 Region Association: South East States |
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rjames |
Nov 2 2020, 01:41 PM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 3,955 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
It's all fixable, but with the additional rust that can be seen on the engine components you'll have a lot more work to do than just the rust on the body of the car. Given what you'll need to spend to get this car back on the road you're probably better off spending it on a car that's in better shape and currently running.
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zprovo |
Nov 2 2020, 02:32 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 16-September 20 From: Nashville TN Member No.: 24,697 Region Association: South East States |
Thank you all for the input. I'm sure I'll be back. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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