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> The John Straub Porsche 914-6 GT is on BaT
eric9144
post Mar 16 2021, 11:40 AM
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This hit BAT, https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-porsche-914-6-gt/ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) Attached Image
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post Mar 16 2021, 11:49 AM
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Its listed in the VIN DB as a factory GT car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif)
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post Mar 16 2021, 11:54 AM
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*dealer built GT
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post Mar 16 2021, 12:19 PM
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Looks like the yellow Fact Sheet missed the Jacques Duval 1971 Daytona win ¿
John loved his GT, so hopefully (this time) it finds a welcoming home and doesn't travel down the flipper circuit.
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post Mar 16 2021, 12:22 PM
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Current bid $914! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)
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post Mar 16 2021, 11:12 PM
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I used to watch this car race at Seca, have some pics somewhere from 2015 and 2018, I don’t recall it looking as beat down as it does now.... last couple of years look to have been rough on this poor car.
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post Mar 17 2021, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(eric9144 @ Mar 16 2021, 01:49 PM) *

Its listed in the VIN DB as a factory GT car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif)

Looks like the vin may be to late to be a factory GT (I’m far from an expert).
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post Mar 17 2021, 05:34 PM
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I have no idea how this car would come thru a PPI, etc, but I'll say this: Having been on track with it at several events, it's one of my favorite 914s on the west coast.

I hope whoever gets it doesn't ruin (read: over-restore) it, and very much wish I was in the hunt on it.
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post Mar 17 2021, 08:34 PM
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Cool car....but no longer a true GT to me with a 3.2 stuffed in there.
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post Mar 17 2021, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(raynekat @ Mar 17 2021, 07:34 PM) *

Cool car....but no longer a true GT to me with a 3.2 stuffed in there.


^ Fair point re: true GT, and should be a 2.0-2.5 with a 901.

With that said, I remember watching a famous 914-6 GT in a straight fight with Cobras out of T11 at Laguna and thinking "A 2.5. Riiiiiiiight…"
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post Mar 17 2021, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(eric9144 @ Mar 16 2021, 10:49 AM) *

Its listed in the VIN DB as a factory GT car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif)

Says right in the sale literature that it was built after the fact using gt parts, so no, not a factory gt. This is a 6 with some really cool parts.
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post Mar 17 2021, 10:44 PM
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For sure a cool build with so many factory M471 parts. No a huge fan of the color, but that's just me. Would make a killer street/vintage racer. Has great history and documentation.
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post Mar 17 2021, 11:13 PM
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Saw this car at Rennsport and had a great chat with John. Lovely car and awesome how John raced it. As I recall John was asking in the $150k range and not sure how much it finally exchanged hands for, but I recall John being satisfied with the sale. So will be interested to see how the market treats the car.

Floor pans - is that rust? Wonder how much love the car would need as a refresh.

The seller is Tom Shaunessy, a well known Ferrari collector and dabbler in Porsches. Curious how this does.
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post Mar 17 2021, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(pete000 @ Mar 17 2021, 09:44 PM) *

For sure a cool build with so many factory M471 parts. No a huge fan of the color, but that's just me. Would make a killer street/vintage racer. Has great history and documentation.

Same color as my first 914 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

J/K to each his own! As for car, with the bolt in side bars, that would make a fun street/track car. I’m kind of happy I found and bought my six, otherwise I’d be fighting for this car!

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post Mar 17 2021, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(infraredcalvin @ Mar 17 2021, 09:32 PM) *

QUOTE(eric9144 @ Mar 16 2021, 10:49 AM) *

Its listed in the VIN DB as a factory GT car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif)

Says right in the sale literature that it was built after the fact using gt parts, so no, not a factory gt. This is a 6 with some really cool parts.

Which is why the category in the VIN database is actually named "GTs - Factory/Dealer/m471" despite what others have claimed earlier in this thread.
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post Mar 18 2021, 11:22 AM
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Yeah, not factory built. But Glenn’s site shows a separate category for GT’s built / converted by dealers and privateers back in the day. The lowest tier of legit GT’s IMHO. Still very cool IMHO ... for instance, the patina under the f/r trunk lids of this car, the racing history & documents make me drool. And the 3.2’s no big deal to me ... very few GT’s have original engines by now and replacing the 3.2 with something more period correct would only enhance value.

Still way out of reach financially for me ...
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post Mar 18 2021, 12:22 PM
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To each his own, but a dealer/team-built 914-6 GT with a big win (or big wins) is arguably more valuable than a factory built GT that didn't win anything.

The ultimate, also IMO, is a works team car with great history. Not many of those.

For me, this would be a repaint to orange (outside only, and not to an overdone level) with a 2.5 MFI plus a set-up 901. Love the wheels, stance, trunks, etc. as is. Might add Marathon-style meatballs with no numbers, but wouldn't add much else. Car deserves to keep vintage racing, and be enjoyed on the street a bit. I hope whoever gets it respects its history, "modest" as it may be, and doesn't erase it.
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post Mar 18 2021, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(Rufus @ Mar 18 2021, 11:22 AM) *

Yeah, not factory built. But Glenn’s site shows a separate category for GT’s built / converted by dealers and privateers back in the day. The lowest tier of legit GT’s IMHO. Still very cool IMHO ... for instance, the patina under the f/r trunk lids of this car, the racing history & documents make me drool. And the 3.2’s no big deal to me ... very few GT’s have original engines by now and replacing the 3.2 with something more period correct would only enhance value.

Still way out of reach financially for me ...



I would bet the vast majority of real GT's are running real number matching motors
they certainly would be most valuable in that condition
and museum quality cars, have a tendency to go back to stock when their value crosses 100,000

I'd bet of the 16+ number... that the majority have correct motors
and its a ding, not to have the number matching motor
especially in vintage racing

that's why I run a 2liter twin plug -6 in mine... correct for vintage racing.
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post Mar 18 2021, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(brant @ Mar 18 2021, 11:26 AM) *

QUOTE(Rufus @ Mar 18 2021, 11:22 AM) *

Yeah, not factory built. But Glenn’s site shows a separate category for GT’s built / converted by dealers and privateers back in the day. The lowest tier of legit GT’s IMHO. Still very cool IMHO ... for instance, the patina under the f/r trunk lids of this car, the racing history & documents make me drool. And the 3.2’s no big deal to me ... very few GT’s have original engines by now and replacing the 3.2 with something more period correct would only enhance value.

Still way out of reach financially for me ...



I would bet the vast majority of real GT's are running real number matching motors
they certainly would be most valuable in that condition
and museum quality cars, have a tendency to go back to stock when their value crosses 100,000

I'd bet of the 16+ number... that the majority have correct motors
and its a ding, not to have the number matching motor
especially in vintage racing

that's why I run a 2liter twin plug -6 in mine... correct for vintage racing.



Thanks for the input, Brant. I would have thought those GT’s with race history would have lost their original case over the years ... maybe I’m wrong. I certainly agree wrt value.
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QUOTE(horizontally-opposed @ Mar 18 2021, 11:22 AM) *

To each his own, but a dealer/team-built 914-6 GT with a big win (or big wins) is arguably more valuable than a factory built GT that didn't win anything.

The ultimate, also IMO, is a works team car with great history. Not many of those.

For me, this would be a repaint to orange (outside only, and not to an overdone level) with a 2.5 MFI plus a set-up 901. Love the wheels, stance, trunks, etc. as is. Might add Marathon-style meatballs with no numbers, but wouldn't add much else. Car deserves to keep vintage racing, and be enjoyed on the street a bit. I hope whoever gets it respects its history, "modest" as it may be, and doesn't erase it.


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