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The John Straub Porsche 914-6 GT is on BaT |
eric9144 |
Mar 16 2021, 11:40 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,734 Joined: 30-March 11 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 12,876 Region Association: Southern California |
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eric9144 |
Mar 16 2021, 11:49 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,734 Joined: 30-March 11 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 12,876 Region Association: Southern California |
Its listed in the VIN DB as a factory GT car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif)
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eric9144 |
Mar 16 2021, 11:54 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,734 Joined: 30-March 11 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 12,876 Region Association: Southern California |
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Maltese Falcon |
Mar 16 2021, 12:19 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,700 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
Looks like the yellow Fact Sheet missed the Jacques Duval 1971 Daytona win ¿
John loved his GT, so hopefully (this time) it finds a welcoming home and doesn't travel down the flipper circuit. |
wes |
Mar 16 2021, 12:22 PM
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wes Group: Members Posts: 1,589 Joined: 8-December 07 From: Ukiah Ca Member No.: 8,436 Region Association: Northern California |
Current bid $914! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)
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infraredcalvin |
Mar 16 2021, 11:12 PM
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Distracted Member Group: Members Posts: 1,528 Joined: 25-August 08 From: Ladera Ranch, CA Member No.: 9,463 Region Association: Southern California |
I used to watch this car race at Seca, have some pics somewhere from 2015 and 2018, I don’t recall it looking as beat down as it does now.... last couple of years look to have been rough on this poor car.
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BENBRO02 |
Mar 17 2021, 05:32 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 483 Joined: 6-March 15 From: Nokesville, Virginia Member No.: 18,493 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Looks like the vin may be to late to be a factory GT (I’m far from an expert). |
horizontally-opposed |
Mar 17 2021, 05:34 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
I have no idea how this car would come thru a PPI, etc, but I'll say this: Having been on track with it at several events, it's one of my favorite 914s on the west coast.
I hope whoever gets it doesn't ruin (read: over-restore) it, and very much wish I was in the hunt on it. |
raynekat |
Mar 17 2021, 08:34 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,159 Joined: 30-December 14 From: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Member No.: 18,263 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Cool car....but no longer a true GT to me with a 3.2 stuffed in there.
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horizontally-opposed |
Mar 17 2021, 10:24 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
Cool car....but no longer a true GT to me with a 3.2 stuffed in there. ^ Fair point re: true GT, and should be a 2.0-2.5 with a 901. With that said, I remember watching a famous 914-6 GT in a straight fight with Cobras out of T11 at Laguna and thinking "A 2.5. Riiiiiiiight…" |
infraredcalvin |
Mar 17 2021, 10:32 PM
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Distracted Member Group: Members Posts: 1,528 Joined: 25-August 08 From: Ladera Ranch, CA Member No.: 9,463 Region Association: Southern California |
Says right in the sale literature that it was built after the fact using gt parts, so no, not a factory gt. This is a 6 with some really cool parts. |
pete000 |
Mar 17 2021, 10:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,885 Joined: 23-August 10 From: Bradenton Florida Member No.: 12,094 Region Association: South East States |
For sure a cool build with so many factory M471 parts. No a huge fan of the color, but that's just me. Would make a killer street/vintage racer. Has great history and documentation.
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davehg |
Mar 17 2021, 11:13 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 185 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Saw this car at Rennsport and had a great chat with John. Lovely car and awesome how John raced it. As I recall John was asking in the $150k range and not sure how much it finally exchanged hands for, but I recall John being satisfied with the sale. So will be interested to see how the market treats the car.
Floor pans - is that rust? Wonder how much love the car would need as a refresh. The seller is Tom Shaunessy, a well known Ferrari collector and dabbler in Porsches. Curious how this does. |
infraredcalvin |
Mar 17 2021, 11:29 PM
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Distracted Member Group: Members Posts: 1,528 Joined: 25-August 08 From: Ladera Ranch, CA Member No.: 9,463 Region Association: Southern California |
For sure a cool build with so many factory M471 parts. No a huge fan of the color, but that's just me. Would make a killer street/vintage racer. Has great history and documentation. Same color as my first 914 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) J/K to each his own! As for car, with the bolt in side bars, that would make a fun street/track car. I’m kind of happy I found and bought my six, otherwise I’d be fighting for this car! |
SirAndy |
Mar 17 2021, 11:31 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,679 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Says right in the sale literature that it was built after the fact using gt parts, so no, not a factory gt. This is a 6 with some really cool parts. Which is why the category in the VIN database is actually named "GTs - Factory/Dealer/m471" despite what others have claimed earlier in this thread. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
Rufus |
Mar 18 2021, 11:22 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 314 Joined: 8-April 06 From: Central NC Member No.: 5,840 Region Association: None |
Yeah, not factory built. But Glenn’s site shows a separate category for GT’s built / converted by dealers and privateers back in the day. The lowest tier of legit GT’s IMHO. Still very cool IMHO ... for instance, the patina under the f/r trunk lids of this car, the racing history & documents make me drool. And the 3.2’s no big deal to me ... very few GT’s have original engines by now and replacing the 3.2 with something more period correct would only enhance value.
Still way out of reach financially for me ... |
horizontally-opposed |
Mar 18 2021, 12:22 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
To each his own, but a dealer/team-built 914-6 GT with a big win (or big wins) is arguably more valuable than a factory built GT that didn't win anything.
The ultimate, also IMO, is a works team car with great history. Not many of those. For me, this would be a repaint to orange (outside only, and not to an overdone level) with a 2.5 MFI plus a set-up 901. Love the wheels, stance, trunks, etc. as is. Might add Marathon-style meatballs with no numbers, but wouldn't add much else. Car deserves to keep vintage racing, and be enjoyed on the street a bit. I hope whoever gets it respects its history, "modest" as it may be, and doesn't erase it. |
brant |
Mar 18 2021, 12:26 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,640 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Yeah, not factory built. But Glenn’s site shows a separate category for GT’s built / converted by dealers and privateers back in the day. The lowest tier of legit GT’s IMHO. Still very cool IMHO ... for instance, the patina under the f/r trunk lids of this car, the racing history & documents make me drool. And the 3.2’s no big deal to me ... very few GT’s have original engines by now and replacing the 3.2 with something more period correct would only enhance value. Still way out of reach financially for me ... I would bet the vast majority of real GT's are running real number matching motors they certainly would be most valuable in that condition and museum quality cars, have a tendency to go back to stock when their value crosses 100,000 I'd bet of the 16+ number... that the majority have correct motors and its a ding, not to have the number matching motor especially in vintage racing that's why I run a 2liter twin plug -6 in mine... correct for vintage racing. |
Rufus |
Mar 18 2021, 01:06 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 314 Joined: 8-April 06 From: Central NC Member No.: 5,840 Region Association: None |
Yeah, not factory built. But Glenn’s site shows a separate category for GT’s built / converted by dealers and privateers back in the day. The lowest tier of legit GT’s IMHO. Still very cool IMHO ... for instance, the patina under the f/r trunk lids of this car, the racing history & documents make me drool. And the 3.2’s no big deal to me ... very few GT’s have original engines by now and replacing the 3.2 with something more period correct would only enhance value. Still way out of reach financially for me ... I would bet the vast majority of real GT's are running real number matching motors they certainly would be most valuable in that condition and museum quality cars, have a tendency to go back to stock when their value crosses 100,000 I'd bet of the 16+ number... that the majority have correct motors and its a ding, not to have the number matching motor especially in vintage racing that's why I run a 2liter twin plug -6 in mine... correct for vintage racing. Thanks for the input, Brant. I would have thought those GT’s with race history would have lost their original case over the years ... maybe I’m wrong. I certainly agree wrt value. |
Rufus |
Mar 18 2021, 01:14 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 314 Joined: 8-April 06 From: Central NC Member No.: 5,840 Region Association: None |
To each his own, but a dealer/team-built 914-6 GT with a big win (or big wins) is arguably more valuable than a factory built GT that didn't win anything. The ultimate, also IMO, is a works team car with great history. Not many of those. For me, this would be a repaint to orange (outside only, and not to an overdone level) with a 2.5 MFI plus a set-up 901. Love the wheels, stance, trunks, etc. as is. Might add Marathon-style meatballs with no numbers, but wouldn't add much else. Car deserves to keep vintage racing, and be enjoyed on the street a bit. I hope whoever gets it respects its history, "modest" as it may be, and doesn't erase it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
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