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Plastic tubing from charcoal canister that runs through rocker |
john77 |
Apr 27 2021, 02:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 621 Joined: 21-February 14 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 17,027 Region Association: Southern California |
I'm almost finished flaring my car and when I removed the tubes from the charcoal canister that thread through the rocker supports back into the engine bay the old brittle plastic pretty much disintegrated in my hands.
I'm assuming I can use any similar ODi plastic tubing, does anyone have any suggestions on what they've used to replace this? And, do they really need to thread all the way underneath the rocker into the engine bay? I'm guessing they routed them that way so any fumes were released behind the cabin rather than in front of it, so the driver didn't get a lung full. But given I never drive with my roof on I'm not too bothered about that, so other than that, are there any cons to me running much shorter tubes into the front fender and terminating them there? |
JeffBowlsby |
Apr 27 2021, 03:09 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,524 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
The two tubes on the early cars circulate engine fan powered air to/from the charcoal canister mounted above the fuel tank. Terminating them in the fender well does nothing.
Another solution would be to mount the canister in the engine bay like the mid-74-76 cars did, but you will need a small diameter tube running through the center tunnel to carry fuel vapor to the engine bay make a functional system. |
Mikey914 |
Apr 27 2021, 03:40 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,677 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
I have the tubing and the factory hoses needed to replace back to the engine compartment. All 10 hoses $64 fits any car with charcoal canister in the front. Shown as 1-10 Plastic shown in gray
Neatly packaged and labeled. Just starting to go into production on these but if you call Kenzie at the office she can get it out. Mark Attached image(s) |
john77 |
Apr 27 2021, 10:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 621 Joined: 21-February 14 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 17,027 Region Association: Southern California |
My car's a 73 that was converted into a 6, which makes sense of why they went nowhere now you've explained what they're there for... at least I think.
On my car they were just routed into my engine bay and connected to nothing. Does that mean I can delete them all together? The two tubes on the early cars circulate engine fan powered air to/from the charcoal canister mounted above the fuel tank. Terminating them in the fender well does nothing. Another solution would be to mount the canister in the engine bay like the mid-74-76 cars did, but you will need a small diameter tube running through the center tunnel to carry fuel vapor to the engine bay make a functional system. |
ClayPerrine |
Apr 28 2021, 09:32 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,502 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
My car's a 73 that was converted into a 6, which makes sense of why they went nowhere now you've explained what they're there for... at least I think. On my car they were just routed into my engine bay and connected to nothing. Does that mean I can delete them all together? The two tubes on the early cars circulate engine fan powered air to/from the charcoal canister mounted above the fuel tank. Terminating them in the fender well does nothing. Another solution would be to mount the canister in the engine bay like the mid-74-76 cars did, but you will need a small diameter tube running through the center tunnel to carry fuel vapor to the engine bay make a functional system. You should hook them back up. It will keep the fuel smell down. Hook one of the tubes to the fan shroud on the six, the other one into the air cleaner. And you have to hook them up correctly. The airflow through the canister has to go the right way. Clay |
bob |
Apr 28 2021, 09:48 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 146 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Va. Member No.: 109 Region Association: None |
Does anyone have a picture where the tube terminates on an original 914-6 ? (all the California sixes I've seen had the canister, but I don't recall how it terminated in the engine compartment)
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john77 |
Apr 28 2021, 12:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 621 Joined: 21-February 14 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 17,027 Region Association: Southern California |
Thanks @ClayPerrine
I'll have to wait until I'm back in front of my car to check this out. Does anyone have pictures of these connections on a 6? My car's a 73 that was converted into a 6, which makes sense of why they went nowhere now you've explained what they're there for... at least I think. On my car they were just routed into my engine bay and connected to nothing. Does that mean I can delete them all together? The two tubes on the early cars circulate engine fan powered air to/from the charcoal canister mounted above the fuel tank. Terminating them in the fender well does nothing. Another solution would be to mount the canister in the engine bay like the mid-74-76 cars did, but you will need a small diameter tube running through the center tunnel to carry fuel vapor to the engine bay make a functional system. You should hook them back up. It will keep the fuel smell down. Hook one of the tubes to the fan shroud on the six, the other one into the air cleaner. And you have to hook them up correctly. The airflow through the canister has to go the right way. Clay |
moldygreg |
Jul 27 2021, 03:20 PM
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Stay Golden Group: Members Posts: 135 Joined: 13-December 12 From: Seattle Member No.: 15,253 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I have the tubing and the factory hoses needed to replace back to the engine compartment. All 10 hoses $64 fits any car with charcoal canister in the front. Shown as 1-10 Plastic shown in gray Neatly packaged and labeled. Just starting to go into production on these but if you call Kenzie at the office she can get it out. Mark @mikey914 --- ^ emailed you today and Mackenzie says you don't carry the above. Is this correct? |
Mikey914 |
Jul 27 2021, 09:57 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,677 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Kind of. Yes I’ve been building “early” expansion tank with charcoal canister in the front. They are just not listed up yet.
Mark |
SirAndy |
Jul 27 2021, 10:06 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Does that mean I can delete them all together? Don't ... Deleting the expansion tank and charcoal canister from my car was the single most stupidest thing i've ever done to my car. And i've done a few stupid things to it. Without a working evap system, every time you have more than 1/2 a tank of gas, the fumes from the overflow will go straight into the cabin. Enough to make you and your passenger nauseous every time you turn a corner. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) |
willieg |
Jul 27 2021, 11:35 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 132 Joined: 13-August 18 From: Pleasant Hill Member No.: 22,389 Region Association: Northern California |
I used 3/8” aluminum tubing, purchased from Summit Racing. Easy to bend and I ran the lines through the rocker panels to the engine bay.
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