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Moving battery to rear trunk - good spot? |
Tdskip |
Aug 9 2021, 10:29 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Hi folks, hope everybody had a good weekend. This car is going to have a 2.4 L carbureted/6 engine hurt but at some point in the future will need the hell hole tidied up. I just need to get the engine in and the car running so well I understand I’m creating more work for myself at some point in the future it’s time to get this thing moving under its own power.
Given that I am thinking about relocating the battery to the position as shown. I am imagining a plastic battery tray that simply bolted to the floor would be fine, but wanted to get some thoughts prior to diving in.. Thanks! (Sharp eyed people who have had their morning coffee will probably spot that there’s a 3.2 L in there, different plans for that motor) |
eric9144 |
Aug 9 2021, 10:34 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,734 Joined: 30-March 11 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 12,876 Region Association: Southern California |
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Shivers |
Aug 9 2021, 10:43 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2,408 Joined: 19-October 20 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 24,781 Region Association: Southern California |
I've seen them front and rear. I read that with a full tank the weight between the front and rear is eprox. 50-50. As the tank empties it gets heavier in back. But this info was on the internet, along with Bigfoot being the father of her baby.
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GregAmy |
Aug 9 2021, 10:49 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,311 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States |
I installed a lightweight AGM battery immediately above the starter (to shorten the positive cable length to the starter) and the ground cable to the standard ground point above the transaxle tail. The cables go through holes in the floor, protected by grommets.
Since the battery is an AGM, I mounted it on its side so the terminals go straight down. The terminals are protected from contact of junk in the trunk by rubber covers. https://braillebattery.com/collections/lightweight-agm https://braillebattery.com/collections/mounts |
mtndawg |
Aug 9 2021, 10:50 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 414 Joined: 26-January 09 From: Granite Bay, Ca Member No.: 9,985 Region Association: None |
I personally like the original location for weight balance and aesthetics in the trunk. You could put it in the rear trunk temporarily while you work on the rust problem.
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Tdskip |
Aug 9 2021, 11:02 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
My folks – thanks for all of the responses. Agree on a modern more compact battery being a plus. Also thinking that at some point I may want to relocate it so using a plastic bowl town battery tray to hold it in place seems like a easily fixable approach.
Appreciate the responses, good coaching. |
Tdskip |
Aug 9 2021, 11:03 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
It works well, but consider swapping down to a smaller more modern form factor, the traditional batter is large and heavy: @eric9144 - Did you notice any difference with the additional bracing to the shock towers |
eric9144 |
Aug 9 2021, 12:33 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,734 Joined: 30-March 11 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 12,876 Region Association: Southern California |
Did you notice any difference with the additional bracing to the shock towers There's so much stiffening on the whole car I honestly couldn't tell you, that's just the tip of the visual iceberg (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
Root_Werks |
Aug 9 2021, 12:38 PM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,331 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I don't have this 914 anymore. I used an Odyssey PC680 I believe? It's covered by the floor carpet on the passenger side. Hardly took up any space which was nice.
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mlindner |
Aug 9 2021, 02:17 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,525 Joined: 11-November 11 From: Merrimac, WI Member No.: 13,770 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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Tdskip |
Aug 9 2021, 06:03 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Thanks for the follow up gentlemen.
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Superhawk996 |
Aug 9 2021, 07:22 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,875 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
I’m odd man out. I’ll offer a contrarian point of view that I felt helps the handling dynamics.
I prefer front trunk on center line. Down low reduce Cg height. Minimises the polar moment of inertia by centralised mass. Helps offset front end getting light with light fuel load. Down side is long cable (4ga welding cable) to positive terminal on starter. Weight of the cable is a negative but it too is down low so not a terrible thing overall. Ran my first teener like this - never a problem with starting other than once has a poor connection to the battery post. I felt this improved initial turn in on corners. Much easier to work on the battery in the Frunk. As another plus - it really opens up the engine compartment for service. Especially so with Carbs. YRMV |
914Toy |
Aug 9 2021, 07:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 718 Joined: 12-November 17 From: Laguna beach Member No.: 21,596 Region Association: Southern California |
I’m odd man out. I’ll offer a contrarian point of view that I felt helps the handling dynamics. I prefer front trunk on center line. Down low reduce Cg height. Minimises the polar moment of inertia by centralised mass. Helps offset front end getting light with light fuel load. Down side is long cable (4ga welding cable) to positive terminal on starter. Weight of the cable is a negative but it too is down low so not a terrible thing overall. Ran my first teener like this - never a problem with starting other than once has a poor connection to the battery post. I felt this improved initial turn in on corners. Much easier to work on the battery in the Frunk. As another plus - it really opens up the engine compartment for service. Especially so with Carbs. YRMV (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
Tdskip |
Aug 10 2021, 06:40 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Thanks for the considerations.
I've found that I use the front trunk a LOT for luggage on road trips etc so a bit concerned about chewing up that space. I think due to the shape of the rear trunk I don't find myself using it much, hence that as a potential placement option. Open to be convinced otherwise, can't argue with the physics of your suggestion. |
Jamie |
Aug 10 2021, 07:16 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,033 Joined: 13-October 04 From: Georgetown,KY Member No.: 2,939 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks for the considerations. I've found that I use the front trunk a LOT for luggage on road trips etc so a bit concerned about chewing up that space. I think due to the shape of the rear trunk I don't find myself using it much, hence that as a potential placement option. Open to be convinced otherwise, can't argue with the physics of your suggestion. Superhawk's physics are correct, but application has many negatives to me. A heavy cable running the length of the body has potential loss of battery "energy," and a real potential for shorts that could be catastrophic! The newer selection of lighter dry cell batteries available makes the trunk location viable with fewer potential location negatives. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I just prefer the original battery tray location with a smaller and lighter new battery, a slight offset for the weight of the driver. . |
mlindner |
Aug 10 2021, 07:35 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,525 Joined: 11-November 11 From: Merrimac, WI Member No.: 13,770 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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burton73 |
Aug 10 2021, 08:50 AM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,538 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
Any of these make you happy?. The sealed ones with top worked great on my tender to my big boat
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Aug 10 2021, 09:47 AM
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Actual member 7" Group: Members Posts: 695 Joined: 22-November 04 From: Huntington Beach, Ca. Member No.: 3,165 Region Association: Southern California |
Agree with others, the shorter the run to the starter the better. I am running a tiny battery for my 3.6 YMMV.
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Maltese Falcon |
Aug 10 2021, 11:53 PM
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930cabman |
Aug 11 2021, 04:56 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,128 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
I personally like the original location for weight balance and aesthetics in the trunk. You could put it in the rear trunk temporarily while you work on the rust problem. I was considering moving the battery also, but voted against. If things are kept in order, battery acid, corrosion, water infiltration and the like I think we will be just fine. If I was running a factory FI system, I would look into moving the ECU away from the battery. |
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