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smooth_eddy
post Jul 28 2005, 07:50 PM
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Just read the Pelican artical on valve adjusting. Seems like a lot of work with the ramps and then jacking. How about using a remote starter? Seems like it would be a lot easier. Or do they overshoot? I saw a remote starter from my flaps for $12. Eddy
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post Jul 28 2005, 07:52 PM
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a914luvr (Glenn) has got one...ask him about it (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)
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post Jul 28 2005, 07:53 PM
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no, Pelican is way to do it, very easy. < 1 hour after you have done it once

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post Jul 28 2005, 07:54 PM
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Back in my VW days it was really easy just turning the generator. Pelicans way seems like a pain in the (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/bootyshake.gif)
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post Jul 28 2005, 07:59 PM
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it seems that way when you read it, but it's not bad at all... I like the pelican way...

Cap'n krusty also posted a great way to tell when to adjust the proper valves...
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post Jul 28 2005, 08:00 PM
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The remote starter switch is pretty handy. As a matter of fact if you do any racing having one installed permanately is pretty handy. Make sure to pull the coil wire so you do not accidentally have the engine start.
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post Jul 28 2005, 08:35 PM
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if instead of ramps you support the vehicle on jackstands, you can remove the roadwheels for more room to move, or if you leave them on, you can put the car in gear and turn the wheels to turn the engine through the transmission.
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post Jul 28 2005, 09:05 PM
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Seems like to me the ramp on the passenger side would be in the way if you use pelicans method. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) Eddy
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post Jul 28 2005, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE (john rogers @ Jul 28 2005, 10:00 PM)
The remote starter switch is pretty handy. As a matter of fact if you do any racing having one installed permanately is pretty handy. Make sure to pull the coil wire so you do not accidentally have the engine start.

And Britt, get your hand out of the fan, and make sure the car is out of gear, and chocked, and don't rest your head on the lower part of the fan belt, and don't use a torch for light, and don't.....



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post Jul 29 2005, 07:38 AM
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Having one wheel on a ramp really is the way to go. All you have to do is turn the free wheel a little bit and voila, you are on to the next set of valves.

When you use a remote starter, wouldn't the valve train move too quick to get it to stop where you want it to?
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post Jul 29 2005, 07:52 AM
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Actually, I use a remote starter button every valve adjustment. I pull both valve covers, and watch the front exhaust valve on the driver's side. When it is open, I adjust the front exhaust valve on the passenger's side. I repeat this process for all the valves.

And you can blip a remote starter button to bump an engine over. Plus the key is NOT on so the car can't start.
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post Jul 29 2005, 08:01 AM
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QUOTE (ClayPerrine @ Jul 29 2005, 06:52 AM)
Actually, I use a remote starter button every valve adjustment. I pull both valve covers, and watch the front exhaust valve on the driver's side. When it is open, I adjust the front exhaust valve on the passenger's side. I repeat this process for all the valves.

And you can blip a remote starter button to bump an engine over. Plus the key is NOT on so the car can't start.

Hmmm ... ok, i may have to try that. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif)
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post Jul 29 2005, 08:13 AM
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For those who don't understand how my method works...

The Type-IV cam only has 4 cam lobes on it. Each lobe opens 2 valves on opposite sides of the motor.

Valve adjustments are always done on the base circle of the cam. The base circle is the part of the cam lobe that does not provide any lift to the valve.

So if you open the valve on the left side, the valve on the right has to be on the base circle.

Hope this clairifys things!!!!
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post Jul 29 2005, 08:36 AM
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My God! It's always getting easier!


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post Jul 29 2005, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE (qa1142 @ Jul 28 2005, 05:53 PM)
no, Pelican is way to do it, very easy. < 1 hour after you have done it once

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One hour? I do 'em in 15 minutes, adjusting every valve, checking them again, and dropping the car to the ground. That is, of course on a lift. Might take a half hour on the ground. The starter button is an important part of my technique, which has appeared here on this very list many times. Pelican's method is slow, cumbersome, and requires waaaaay too much effort. The Cap'n
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post Jul 29 2005, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE (ClayPerrine @ Jul 29 2005, 06:52 AM)
Actually, I use a remote starter button every valve adjustment. I pull both valve covers, and watch the front exhaust valve on the driver's side. When it is open, I adjust the front exhaust valve on the passenger's side. I repeat this process for all the valves.

And you can blip a remote starter button to bump an engine over. Plus the key is NOT on so the car can't start.

Damn Texans are stealing my procedures again......time for an interstate war (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mad.gif)














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post Jul 29 2005, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE (SLITS @ Jul 29 2005, 09:03 AM)
QUOTE (ClayPerrine @ Jul 29 2005, 06:52 AM)
Actually, I use a remote starter button every valve adjustment. I pull both valve covers, and watch the front exhaust valve on the driver's side. When it is open, I adjust the front exhaust valve on the passenger's side.  I repeat this process for all the valves.

And you can blip a remote starter button to bump an engine over. Plus the key is NOT on so the car can't start.

Damn Texans are stealing my procedures again......time for an interstate war (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mad.gif)














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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/flipa.gif) I have been doing valve adjustments like that for over 10 years......

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) Maybe you stole MY idea.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif)



Cap'n... It only takes me about 30 minutes on jack stands, and about 20 on the lift.....

But usually I am doing other things at the same time, so I don't really time it.
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post Jul 29 2005, 12:01 PM
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You only have to move the engine twice. Once to TDC #1 and once again to TDC #3. You do three valves on one side and one on the other, rotate. Been doing it like that for years. and some times with a remote starter... Oh and on the lift... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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post Jul 29 2005, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE (smooth_eddy @ Jul 28 2005, 06:50 PM)
I saw a remote starter from my flaps for $12. Eddy

Just get a momentary switch at the hardware store, about $3 (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)
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post Jul 29 2005, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE (Mike D. @ Jul 29 2005, 11:01 AM)
You only have to move the engine twice. Once to TDC #1 and once again to TDC #3. You do three valves on one side and one on the other, rotate. Been doing it like that for years. and some times with a remote starter... Oh and on the lift... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

I'll have to remember that, too.
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