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jim_hoyland
post Mar 19 2022, 06:03 AM
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When I let out the clutch pedal, it makes a "creaky" noise are it comes up and a feeling. Some friction accompanies the clutch return.
First noticed this when I couldn't easily start off in1st.
IIRC, the pedal cluster is less than 10 years old.

Where should I start ?
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ndfrigi
post Mar 19 2022, 06:11 AM
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Good morning Jim! Try to apply some WD40 on your bushings of your pedal and see if the creaky noise will be gone. If not, maybe your clutch cable need replacement.
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post Mar 19 2022, 06:37 AM
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Could be bushings need lube as suggested, or bushings are worn/disintegrating.

Any chance you just replaced the clutch cable? I accidentally wrapped it around the throttle cable tube once while replacing - that made for a weird feeling clutch!
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post Mar 19 2022, 07:23 AM
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Disconnect the clutch cable and see if pedal works OK, no sound or friction. Then onto the next, cable, trans plastic wheel etc.
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post Mar 19 2022, 07:24 AM
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Clutch cable replaced two years ago; pedal worked fine until recently. I believe the bushing is bronze.
Found this 2016 thread on the same issue,
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=50499&st=0
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post Mar 19 2022, 08:12 AM
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Spot weld on clutch tube came apart. Probably the front weld. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Mar 19 2022, 08:46 AM
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Jim,
I can come over and help tomorrow sometime, text or call.
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post Mar 19 2022, 09:24 AM
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Jim,
I can come over and help tomorrow sometime, text or call.
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Thanks Bob, I have an appointment at PCH Garage first thing Monday. Jorge’s going to look at it. Back in 2016, a similiar thing happened
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post Apr 3 2022, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(76-914 @ Mar 19 2022, 07:12 AM) *

Spot weld on clutch tube came apart. Probably the front weld. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


I just discovered the same thing has happened to my car. What tipped me off was the shift linkage was moving okay until I push in the clutch which causes the shift handle’s range of motion to be reduced. After inspection using the limited number of holes in the center floor tunnel it looks like just the front weld has come loose.

Has anyone come up with a way to surgically secure the cable tube? I really don’t want to cut an access hole in the center floor tunnel?
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post Apr 3 2022, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(davenorcal @ Apr 3 2022, 09:23 PM) *

QUOTE(76-914 @ Mar 19 2022, 07:12 AM) *

Spot weld on clutch tube came apart. Probably the front weld. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


I just discovered the same thing has happened to my car. What tipped me off was the shift linkage was moving okay until I push in the clutch which causes the shift handle’s range of motion to be reduced. After inspection using the limited number of holes in the center floor tunnel it looks like just the front weld has come loose.

Has anyone come up with a way to surgically secure the cable tube? I really don’t want to cut an access hole in the center floor tunnel?


What others did is just remove the shifter to get access to the clutch tube and they U shape clamp with screw (offcourse you will get 2 holes towards the driver side for the screw/nut.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=274079




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post Apr 3 2022, 10:59 PM
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U-clamps are a hack repair. Remove the shift lever, clamp and plug weld through the tunnel side. Put a #2 Phillips in the tube to control blow through of the weld.

https://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/zTN_Trans_C...hTubeRepair.jpg
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post Apr 4 2022, 05:12 AM
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QUOTE(ndfrigi @ Apr 3 2022, 09:52 PM) *

QUOTE(davenorcal @ Apr 3 2022, 09:23 PM) *

QUOTE(76-914 @ Mar 19 2022, 07:12 AM) *

Spot weld on clutch tube came apart. Probably the front weld. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


I just discovered the same thing has happened to my car. What tipped me off was the shift linkage was moving okay until I push in the clutch which causes the shift handle’s range of motion to be reduced. After inspection using the limited number of holes in the center floor tunnel it looks like just the front weld has come loose.

Has anyone come up with a way to surgically secure the cable tube? I really don’t want to cut an access hole in the center floor tunnel?


What others did is just remove the shifter to get access to the clutch tube and they U shape clamp with screw (offcourse you will get 2 holes towards the driver side for the screw/nut.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=274079

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I like this approach.Cars still in the shop though, so Im kinda out of the loop
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post Apr 4 2022, 06:18 AM
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QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Apr 4 2022, 03:12 AM) *

QUOTE(ndfrigi @ Apr 3 2022, 09:52 PM) *

QUOTE(davenorcal @ Apr 3 2022, 09:23 PM) *

QUOTE(76-914 @ Mar 19 2022, 07:12 AM) *

Spot weld on clutch tube came apart. Probably the front weld. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


I just discovered the same thing has happened to my car. What tipped me off was the shift linkage was moving okay until I push in the clutch which causes the shift handle’s range of motion to be reduced. After inspection using the limited number of holes in the center floor tunnel it looks like just the front weld has come loose.

Has anyone come up with a way to surgically secure the cable tube? I really don’t want to cut an access hole in the center floor tunnel?


What others did is just remove the shifter to get access to the clutch tube and they U shape clamp with screw (offcourse you will get 2 holes towards the driver side for the screw/nut.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=274079

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I like this approach.Cars still in the shop though, so Im kinda out of the loop


I had a similar issue on my original 914-6 and it turned out to be the clutch cable deflection roller was failing, replaced it and all is well now.
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post Apr 4 2022, 08:21 AM
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Mine squaks too and does not come out smooth.

Not sure what is meant by "clutch cable deflection roller". Is this referring to the one mounted back on trans?
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post Apr 4 2022, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE(gereed75 @ Apr 4 2022, 07:21 AM) *

Mine squaks too and does not come out smooth.

Not sure what is meant by "clutch cable deflection roller". Is this referring to the one mounted back on trans?

Yes that is the one. The OE one was a nylon. We made them from Delrin, and inexpensively. $16 everyday price with the new bushing too!
https://914rubber.com/clutch-cable-deflection-roller-1-1


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QUOTE(JeffBowlsby @ Apr 3 2022, 09:59 PM) *

U-clamps are a hack repair. Remove the shift lever, clamp and plug weld through the tunnel side. Put a #2 Phillips in the tube to control blow through of the weld.

https://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/zTN_Trans_C...hTubeRepair.jpg



What I did on my 6 #41

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post Apr 4 2022, 02:39 PM
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Yes, a creaking sound is very often a failing weld on either end of the tube. I think the front end fails first, followed by the firewall end.
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post Apr 4 2022, 04:20 PM
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Do you have problems grinding gear changes, particularly going in 1st or reverse? Because of the tension on the clutch cable it can transmit noises.

Starting front to back, it could be:
clutch pedal bushings
roll pin on the pedal pivot shaft
broken front cable trunion
broken clutch cable tube
pulley, or pulley bushing
rear cable trunion
throw out fork
cup bushing for TO fork
throw out bearing
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Jim,

My clutch pedal also creaks when coming back up. Turns out it's just my knee so I'm no help.

-Dan
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post Apr 5 2022, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(IronHillRestorations @ Apr 4 2022, 03:20 PM) *

Do you have problems grinding gear changes, particularly going in 1st or reverse? Because of the tension on the clutch cable it can transmit noises.

Starting front to back, it could be:
clutch pedal bushings
roll pin on the pedal pivot shaft
broken front cable trunion
broken clutch cable tube
pulley, or pulley bushing
rear cable trunion
throw out fork
cup bushing for TO fork
throw out bearing

No grinding during gear changes. Thanks for the list.At first I thought the sound/friction emanated from the pedal assembly. It’s not old, and BS assured me the bushings are brass.
Cars at my local shop waiting it’s turn.
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