 914 on Quickjack 7000TLX--Fail! |
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| bkrantz |
 Dec 12 2022, 08:39 PM
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914 Guru  Group: Members Posts: 8,467 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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I recently got a Quickjack 7000 TLX. I need the long X model to reach the jack points on my other vehicles. But I have failed to lift the 914.
My first attempt had the Quickjacks in the "official" positions, i.e. with the lower base pivots forward. Note this is not what I consider safe for 911s and probably for 914s, since the car center of gravity can end up outside (behind) the end of the lower base. Attached thumbnail(s) 
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| bkrantz |
Dec 12 2022, 08:41 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,467 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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But the rear jack point is far forward of the lifting pad, even with the pad as far forward as possible.
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| bkrantz |
Dec 12 2022, 08:42 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,467 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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The front jack point and pad look OK.
But I could not try lifting the car. Attached thumbnail(s) 
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| bkrantz |
Dec 12 2022, 08:43 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,467 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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I then swapped the Quickjacks from side to side, so the orientation is "backwards" from the official position. Note the jacks are as far to the rear as possible, almost touching the rear tires.
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| bkrantz |
Dec 12 2022, 08:44 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,467 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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Again, the front lift pad is OK.
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| bkrantz |
Dec 12 2022, 08:45 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,467 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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And the rear lift pad, as far forward as possible, does (barely) reach the jack point.
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| bkrantz |
Dec 12 2022, 08:49 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,467 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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But as the car lifts, and the suspension drops, the front wheel makes contact with the jack, and becomes impossible to remove.
I know that the jacks can be used sideways. What have you all found? Attached thumbnail(s) 
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| 76-914 |
Dec 12 2022, 09:29 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,757 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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Bob, It has been pointed out to me that those aren't necessarily jack pads but rather attach points used during assembly. Just as long as your under the long your OK. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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| Robarabian |
Dec 12 2022, 09:37 PM
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914 A Roo Group: Members Posts: 705 Joined: 11-February 19 From: Simi Valley, Kalifornia Member No.: 22,865 Region Association: Southern California
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You should have the pinch weld rubber pads. You can use those and go under the longs. Or the sideways method works, I have done it too. But can't engine drop easily on the sideways lift. Good for oil changes and brakes etc....
If it didn't come with the pinch weld pads, look them up on their site. |
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| mepstein |
Dec 12 2022, 09:38 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,994 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(76-914 @ Dec 12 2022, 10:29 PM)  Bob, It has been pointed out to me that those aren't necessarily jack pads but rather attach points used during assembly. Just as long as your under the long your OK. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) I agree, If you can lift it at the longs, you are good. A set of 4 hockey pucks with a grove cut down the middle to accept the pinch welds would be great. I've never used a quickjack so I don't know what works best. It never hurts to use a 5th point of contact, like a deadman or a tall jack stand, to help guard against a weight shift if you are dropping an engine. tires will do in a pinch. |
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| Freezin 914 |
Dec 12 2022, 10:05 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 927 Joined: 27-July 14 From: Wisconsin Member No.: 17,687 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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I have the QJ 5000, it is tight by the wheels, but I had more space than you have. according to instructions, they are lift blocks if needed.
I believe over the winter I will be building or buying pinch weld blocks. Attached image(s) 
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| 914sgofast2 |
Dec 12 2022, 10:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 741 Joined: 10-May 13 From: El Dorado Hills, CA Member No.: 15,855 Region Association: None |
I have the 5000 model too and it is finicky to get it positioned correctly so the rubber blocks meet the round pickup points on the chassis of a 914. Plus you have to get it just right so the tires don't get hung up on the Quickjack as it raises the car and the suspension drops. The 7000 model appears to be a little too long for a 914's wheelbase.
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| bandjoey |
Dec 12 2022, 10:32 PM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,934 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Do not try to flip the lift sideways. As it lifts, the car normally moves forward as it leaves the ground. If lifting sideways, the car drags the wheels sideways against the tires and makes an unsafe lift. ask me now i know!. I use the longs with the pads on the pinch area.
You can use the engine crossbar ok. Pictures look like that's a fit. I think the 7700 is too long however. |
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| SirAndy |
Dec 12 2022, 10:53 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 42,284 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(bandjoey @ Dec 12 2022, 08:32 PM) You can use the engine crossbar ok. Only if it is the later solid mounts. On early side-shifter cars, that will destroy the outer rubber mounts. And as mentioned above, those round "donuts" aren't jacking points. Neither of them is supported by anything structural on the backside and you will buckle your floor-pan if you lift there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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| peteinjp |
Dec 13 2022, 05:18 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 211 Joined: 15-July 21 From: Japan Member No.: 25,723 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Dec 13 2022, 01:53 PM) QUOTE(bandjoey @ Dec 12 2022, 08:32 PM) You can use the engine crossbar ok. Only if it is the later solid mounts. On early side-shifter cars, that will destroy the outer rubber mounts. And as mentioned above, those round "donuts" aren't jacking points. Neither of them is supported by anything structural on the backside and you will buckle your floor-pan if you lift there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) I’ve been using the donuts….. So just to clear the pinch weld on the longs would be the best place to support the car? Pete |
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| mlindner |
Dec 13 2022, 05:26 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,691 Joined: 11-November 11 From: Merrimac, WI Member No.: 13,770 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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On both front and rear I use a larger board over the pad that meets both the donut and pinch weld, very stable.
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| Retroracer |
Dec 13 2022, 08:22 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 641 Joined: 7-July 13 From: Bend OR Member No.: 16,100 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Seconded (thirded?) for NOT putting any significant load on the front donuts. You will just bend the floor. Ask me how I know.... conversely the rear donuts are better structurally secured, but agree that the pucks that pick up the vertical pinch feature are preferred.
- Tony |
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| NARP74 |
Dec 13 2022, 09:49 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,391 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Well smack me in the head with a salmon. I have been lifting 2 different cars with the "donuts" for years. Now I have to learn a new trick.
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| mepstein |
Dec 13 2022, 10:45 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,994 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(NARP74 @ Dec 13 2022, 10:49 AM) Well smack me in the head with a salmon. I have been lifting 2 different cars with the "donuts" for years. Now I have to learn a new trick. If you live on the east coast, they are usually rusted out anyway. |
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| NARP74 |
Dec 13 2022, 11:00 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,391 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE(mepstein @ Dec 13 2022, 09:45 AM) QUOTE(NARP74 @ Dec 13 2022, 10:49 AM) Well smack me in the head with a salmon. I have been lifting 2 different cars with the "donuts" for years. Now I have to learn a new trick. If you live on the east coast, they are usually rusted out anyway. Good point. Mine are not now but could be some day. |
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