Sincere question: How do you price rare/NLA parts without being an a**** |
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Sincere question: How do you price rare/NLA parts without being an a**** |
Brian_Boss |
Feb 21 2023, 09:37 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 324 Joined: 3-June 03 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 781 |
How do you price items that are so rarely available that there are no "comparable sales"? I've run into this issue a few times recently in the process of trying to clean out stuff that otherwise is going in the inevitable estate sale.
Just looking to hear peoples thoughts on this subject. It's a quandary for me because I don't want to be "that guy" who is trying to gouge fellow enthusiasts but the flip side is a) just like everyone else I have bills to pay, family to feed, cars to fix, etc., b) I really don't want to repeat selling items cheap, trying to be nice, and seeing them being "flipped" for a profit (this has never happened with 914world, BTW). Hit me up if you need an early 911 power window motor LOL. |
914werke |
Feb 21 2023, 09:51 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,120 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Just send them to me...I have no problem being "That guy" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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Superhawk996 |
Feb 21 2023, 09:51 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,877 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
You just outlined it.
Start high, be honest, be willing to adjust downward if there aren’t takers. Generally (on this site) if you’re out of your mind on pricing someone will say something or point toward a comp. If you’re out of your mind on EBay, then your normal and it will just sit there for years and years waiting for just the right sucker. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) |
wonkipop |
Feb 21 2023, 10:01 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,372 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
You just outlined it. Start high, be honest, be willing to adjust downward if there aren’t takers. Generally (on this site) if you’re out of your mind on pricing someone will say something or point toward a comp. If you’re out of your mind on EBay, then your normal and it will just sit there for years and years waiting for just the right sucker. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) spoken like a true capitalist. hard not to admire such straightforward approaches. the seller and the buyer meet somewhere in the middle. obviously the rarer it is the harder it is for the buyer to wander down to the next market aisle and find what they are looking for. so the seller simply has to wait for them to return. of course many sellers think otherwise and die with whatever it is they think its worth! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
BillJ |
Feb 21 2023, 10:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,106 Joined: 4-March 13 From: charlotte, NC Member No.: 15,610 Region Association: None |
Superhawk is about right. If you want to feel better about it find the comps and knock 10% off.
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JeffBowlsby |
Feb 21 2023, 10:24 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,526 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
If it’s just a couple items post details and clear photos here for opinions, to be sent to you by email if PM for confidentiality. Tag the parts supplier members who are up to date on current market trends. In no specific order:
914sixer Dr914 Bdstone Bontempi Who else? If it’s more than an item or two, offer to pay 1 or more of them for a confidential appraisal. These are specialists and their time/expertise is valuable. Then decide if you truly want to sell for a reasonable price today or pass them to your heirs to probably give them away. |
Brian_Boss |
Feb 21 2023, 10:33 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 324 Joined: 3-June 03 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 781 |
You just outlined it. Start high, be honest, be willing to adjust downward if there aren’t takers. Generally (on this site) if you’re out of your mind on pricing someone will say something or point toward a comp. If you’re out of your mind on EBay, then your normal and it will just sit there for years and years waiting for just the right sucker. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) So true about ebay (and also thesamba). Certain sellers have stuff that just sits there for ridiculous amounts of time, hoping for a sucker. |
Brian_Boss |
Feb 21 2023, 10:37 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 324 Joined: 3-June 03 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 781 |
Thanks Rich. That can be be my backup plan...LOLZ |
Jett |
Feb 21 2023, 10:41 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,640 Joined: 27-July 14 From: Seattle Member No.: 17,686 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Superhawk is about right. If you want to feel better about it find the comps and knock 10% off. +1 and really appreciate the mindful question. For 914 parts, this is the best place to sell because all of the owners are here, regardless of price point. If you have 911 (or other variants) parts then Pelican, where you can go to the marketplace discussion form and ask members what is a fair price., and then list. If you have something super rare then BAT, those fellows will sell anything! My friend has an impressive stash of old 911 stuff, and someone knew he had an early NOS MFI pump that he bought in the late 70’s. The person told my friend that the pump was for a concours restoration so he sold it for $1500, a week later it sold on Craig’s list for 12k. My friend did not keep the part for 40+ years to make money, he was stewarding it until finding the right car, but failed when trying to do the right thing. |
r_towle |
Feb 21 2023, 10:43 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
all part of my plan. I deviously got my son into 914s. Now I don't even need to remember what the part is....it will be his problem. Rich |
Brian_Boss |
Feb 21 2023, 10:54 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 324 Joined: 3-June 03 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 781 |
If it’s just a couple items post details and clear photos here for opinions, to be sent to you by email if PM for confidentiality. Tag the parts supplier members who are up to date on current market trends. In no specific order: 914sixer Dr914 Bdstone Bontempi Who else? If it’s more than an item or two, offer to pay 1 or more of them for a confidential appraisal. These are specialists and their time/expertise is valuable. Then decide if you truly want to sell for a reasonable price today or pass them to your heirs to probably give them away. I guess I was a little vague. I do not have a "lost warehouse" full of super rare parts. It's just the odd item that has been sitting on the shelf so long that it has become NLA. To clarify, here's an example. NOS 2.0 fuel injectors. I'm pretty sure none have been publicly offered for sale in the past year, or longer, other than by ebay gougers trying to get $900 for a set of 4 (none of which have sold in whatever time period ebay displays sold items). |
JeffBowlsby |
Feb 21 2023, 10:57 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,526 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
This should not be a big question to get a reasonable answer to. Contact the parts sellers as above for input.
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Brian_Boss |
Feb 21 2023, 11:01 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 324 Joined: 3-June 03 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 781 |
Superhawk is about right. If you want to feel better about it find the comps and knock 10% off. My friend has an impressive stash of old 911 stuff, and someone knew he had an early NOS MFI pump that he bought in the late 70’s. The person told my friend that the pump was for a concours restoration so he sold it for $1500, a week later it sold on Craig’s list for 12k. My friend did not keep the part for 40+ years to make money, he was stewarding it until finding the right car, but failed when trying to do the right thing. This is just sad. I know it is the real world but I hate when people only motivated by profit mess up any hobby/interest whether it be old cars, old watches, art, guns, whatever. It sucks to be an enthusiast in an area that becomes popular with the speculator. |
mepstein |
Feb 21 2023, 11:08 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,307 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I ran into that problem when I found a 4 cam distributor in the parts stash. Sort of winged it, buyer made an offer and we agreed on a price. All within 24 hours.
I had thought it was an early VW dizzy until my friend gave me a heads up. Attached image(s) |
Craigers17 |
Feb 21 2023, 11:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 740 Joined: 5-August 17 From: Rome, GA Member No.: 21,317 Region Association: South East States |
Example: They sold quickly at that price.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=...D2h9DCfNimcCoIb One More: Although these are 2 diff. part numbers: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=331800 If you are looking to sell specifically 2.0 injectors, based upon these sales, it looks like the sweet spot is somewhere between $150 and $225 EA. Just my two cents. |
914Sixer |
Feb 22 2023, 06:56 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,897 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Feel free to contact me and I will be glad to help.
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rhodyguy |
Feb 22 2023, 08:42 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,084 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Which long term owner does not have a shed or garage full of parts? Part of the hobby. Consequence of ownership. Old school days. Buying parts cars 3 at a time for a couple of grand. Perhaps less.
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gandalf_025 |
Feb 22 2023, 10:03 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,456 Joined: 25-June 09 From: North Shore, Massachusetts Member No.: 10,509 Region Association: North East States |
I must be the exception..
I bought 1, 914 in 1973 and never bought a parts car or a collection of parts . I bought parts as needed, but never collected or hoarded parts.. Guess i’m a failure …. |
Brian_Boss |
Feb 22 2023, 10:27 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 324 Joined: 3-June 03 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 781 |
Thanks everyone for your insights and suggestions.
The question was really a general "what is your approach". I do not have a huge stash of rare 914 parts. I have only had the pricing quandary a few times and rarely regarding 914 parts. Here's an example. It's an early 911 roll bar mounting plate. I only have the right side. I communicated with a couple people on early911sregistry about it because I would rather have it go on someones build than sit on ebay for 3 years. |
Bullethead |
Feb 22 2023, 10:36 AM
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Oil Cooled heart Group: Members Posts: 897 Joined: 24-June 10 From: South Florida Member No.: 11,875 Region Association: South East States |
Porsche and VW guys are generally easier to deal with than some other enthusiast groups. I've never quibbled on super rare items and simple negotiations for Porsche NOS parts have always been direct. Vintage BMW guys aren't like that. I've had two unicorn E9 items for sale, a NOS 3.0CSL alloy door priced very fairly, and a 5mm lightweight Glaverbel windshield posted with "make an offer", simply because such a thing has no BMW comps. So far, nothing on the door, and several "so what do you want for it" on the windshield. I guess the concept of an offer isn't clearly understood.
Part number for the Glaverbel is the same as for a '73 911RS lightweight. Guess how much those change hands for? |
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