 Starter replacement, Just about had it with this car... |
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| ltex |
 Aug 21 2005, 03:19 PM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 14 Joined: 3-August 05 From: Auburn, Wa Member No.: 4,535  |
Okay, who thought this was a good idea?
I went to replace my starter. Done it lots of times with Fords and Chevs, now on my 72 914. Bottom nut is not a problem. 17mm socket .. ya-hoo .. Top bolt .. what the heck?? What's with the two burms on the starter to prevent getting a socket on the bolt??? And I can't get a spanner on it far enough to turn it. Just far enough to flex the span and risk stripping the bolt head. So how much of the car do I have to disassemble to replace the starter? This car IS fun to drive, but with the frustration it has generated .. it's just not THAT fun .. Lonny |
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| mihai914 |
Aug 21 2005, 03:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 800 Joined: 2-March 05 From: Montreal, QC Member No.: 3,697 Region Association: None 
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Try the nut in the engine compartment by the rear firewall instead.
It's times like these you wish you had a Haynes manual or at least read it before (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) |
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| McMark |
Aug 21 2005, 03:22 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
The two protrusions are to keep the bolt from spinning. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
Go into the engine bay and you'll find the other end of the bolt and a nut. If it's a 1.7 it'll be trying to hid behind the throttle body. If it's a 2.0 it'll be right behind the cold start injector. Same place on both engines, but the FI changed, so it looks different. I'll go take a picture if I can. |
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| bd1308 |
Aug 21 2005, 03:22 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif) i had this one....
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| McMark |
Aug 21 2005, 03:23 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Can't get my camera in there. Sorry.
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| rhodyguy |
Aug 21 2005, 03:26 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,093 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
like mark said. the bolt head is "captured".
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| black73 |
Aug 21 2005, 03:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 516 Joined: 23-March 05 From: Nashville,TN Member No.: 3,801 Region Association: South East States |
Congratulations! You are now an official 914 owner. I say that every time I work on mine. |
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| bd1308 |
Aug 21 2005, 03:42 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
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| markb |
Aug 21 2005, 05:18 PM
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914less :( Group: Members Posts: 5,449 Joined: 22-January 03 From: Nipomo, CA Member No.: 180 Region Association: Central California
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) It's one of those "must have" items. Like AAA. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| wilchek |
Aug 21 2005, 07:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 506 Joined: 8-June 04 From: Eastern Pennsylvania Member No.: 2,177 |
maybe this will help, this is with the engine out of the car. If you can't get to the bolt take off the engine lid which is very easy to do. Remove aircleaner noteing where the hoses go and the bolt should be obvious on the firwall/enginetin on the transmission side.
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| wilchek |
Aug 21 2005, 07:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 506 Joined: 8-June 04 From: Eastern Pennsylvania Member No.: 2,177 |
pic of the bolt on the starter that will not spin and a pic of the wiring to the starter. Remember that the right main wiring nut (on back of solinoide) does not have a connection to it. Two main wires to left nut and one yellow to top spade connection.
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| SirAndy |
Aug 21 2005, 10:38 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,679 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
we need a RTFM smily ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) Andy |
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| ltex |
Aug 22 2005, 02:06 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 14 Joined: 3-August 05 From: Auburn, Wa Member No.: 4,535 |
Thanks ..
Dang this car is aggrevating .. |
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| jonwatts |
Aug 22 2005, 02:35 PM
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no rules, just wrong Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,321 Joined: 13-January 03 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 141  |
This is part of what defines what type of car guy you are. If you're a Ford guy then the way Chevys are put together doesn't make sense. If you were raised on VW's then Porsche's make sense.
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| Joe Ricard |
Aug 22 2005, 02:44 PM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
Righty tighty Lefty Loosey From the engine compartment side whilst holding the 17mm wrench with finger tips blind cause you probably can't get both your arm and head in there at the same time. Standing on your left foot only holding the engine lid up with your shoulder.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer.gif) |
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Aug 22 2005, 03:46 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
That above mentioned 17mm nut might just be a 15mm nut, because that's how it came from the factory. The Cap'n
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| Mueller |
Aug 22 2005, 03:54 PM
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that is one smart bolt, hahahaha |
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| McMark |
Aug 22 2005, 04:36 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
I didn't want to confuse him. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) Are both the nuts in the engine bay supposed to be 15 mm wrench? |
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| SLITS |
Aug 22 2005, 04:45 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
The size of the nut was determined by the last nut that threaded the nut on that he found on the floor or in the nut can. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif) Oh, I forgot (IMG:http://forum.lowcarber.org/images/smilies/deal.gif) Read the book |
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Aug 22 2005, 07:05 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Yes, and they're substantially thinner than a cylinder head nut. See the picture from "wilchek", which appears to show a head nut instead of the real thing. The Cap'n |
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