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post Oct 2 2005, 08:13 PM
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So I got me a second 914, to drive while I finish restoring the "keeper". But it has dual webber 40's with issues.. It doesn't like to idle, and if I spray carb cleaner into some of the venturies it idles better, others not. Should I just pull them and rebuild them? Turning the adjustment screws doesn't seem to make much difference.

I'm trying to acertain whether or not it has the stock cam, if it does I'll probably go back to fuel injection.
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post Oct 2 2005, 08:50 PM
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The quickest way to get it working would be to swap an LT1 in there.


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post Oct 2 2005, 09:03 PM
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the Weber's will work nicely on your motor.

clean the idle jets first.

change the fuel filter and clean the fuel inlet screens.

Make sure you know what the adjusting screws do before you start tweaking them (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

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post Oct 2 2005, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE (bondo @ Oct 2 2005, 07:13 PM)
Should I just pull them and rebuild them?

rebuilding isn't too hard or expensive. then at least you *know* they're good. then syncronize, then adjust ...

also, make sure the linkage is tight ...
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post Oct 2 2005, 09:30 PM
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Those IDF's are notorious for clogged idle jets. Once you get new filters and get them good and cleaned out, they will tend to stay that way. But that can take a while.
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post Oct 2 2005, 10:22 PM
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Thanks for the info.. The PO says he has the haynes book for the carbs, so once I get that I should be ok.. It really roars at high RPM, it's just hosed at idle, so it sounds like clearing out the crud may help me.

The linkage is the sucky part.. it.. sucks! It has these two flimsy "L" brakets coming off the bottoms of the air cleaners, with a rod in between them. The geometry is so bad that the gas pedal is quite hard to push even with a new cable. I had to swap in the rebuilt pedal cluster I had ready for the LT1 because the throttle pivot thingie had come loose from the shaft at the braze.

Maybe I should just toss the LT1 in there.. for now. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/lol2.gif)

It's gonna be a nice driver, methinks. I went over the underside with a fine toothed comb and didn't find any rust. Unfortunately, the body is another story.

I was sure I'd have gotten a TTIWWP by now.. but here's some pics anyways.

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post Oct 2 2005, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE (bondo @ Oct 2 2005, 10:22 PM)
It's gonna be a nice driver, methinks. I went over the underside with a fine toothed comb and didn't find any rust. Unfortunately, the body is another story.

I was sure I'd have gotten a TTIWWP by now.. but here's some pics anyways.

Sleepin at the switch....

Ouch! That ain't gonna rub out.
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post Oct 2 2005, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE (Gint @ Oct 2 2005, 09:30 PM)

Ouch! That ain't gonna rub out.

Yup, but I've got a plasma cutter and a welder and I'm not afraid to use em. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

Probably better this way, if it was minor I might try and do spot patches and the rust would just come back. This forces me to just cut it all out and weld in good steel.
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post Oct 2 2005, 10:58 PM
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post Oct 2 2005, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE (bondo @ Oct 2 2005, 08:13 PM)
It doesn't like to idle, and if I spray carb cleaner into some of the venturies it idles better, others not.

Should I just pull them and rebuild them? Turning the adjustment screws doesn't seem to make much difference.

Rebuilding the carbs is an easy task you can do in one evening. Go slow and stay organized. Pull both carbs, but just dismantle one of them, so you can refer to the other if you need to.

But before you do that, as others have said, pull the idle jets and use compressed air to clear them. Spray your cleaner into the screw holes. Also, remove all 4 of the fuel/air adjustment screws (refer to the manual). Clean them and make sure a PO hasn't bent them. Gently seat them and screw out 2.5 turns. Then use the manual for adjustment procedures.

Sounds like your linkage may need to be upgraded. Do you have a pic of it?

That's some nasty looking rust! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif)
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post Oct 3 2005, 12:23 AM
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It's POIPLE!

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post Oct 3 2005, 12:33 AM
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BAH! It looks like a perfect candidate for a Chalon

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post Oct 3 2005, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE (Joseph Mills @ Oct 2 2005, 10:33 PM)


Sounds like your linkage may need to be upgraded. Do you have a pic of it?

Linkage pics!



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post Oct 3 2005, 08:36 PM
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post Oct 3 2005, 08:36 PM
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that linkage is laughable....look at the angle that throttle cable makes with the linkage

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post Oct 3 2005, 08:39 PM
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Here's the engine number.. any ideas what I've got? The PO thought it was a 1.8, but then it's been rebuilt, so who knows.



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post Oct 3 2005, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE (bd1308 @ Oct 3 2005, 07:36 PM)
that linkage is laughable....look at the angle that throttle cable makes with the linkage

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Yeah, and the gas pedal is super stiff, even with a new throttle cable and rebuilt pedal cluster.
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post Oct 3 2005, 08:42 PM
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oh shit!

what's that crack....Z could give that crack a run for it's money, but isnt that like on the block?
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post Oct 3 2005, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE (bd1308 @ Oct 3 2005, 07:42 PM)
oh shit!

what's that crack....Z could give that crack a run for it's money, but isnt that like on the block?

It's not a crack, it's just some overhanging casting flashing that's making a shadow because of the flash (took the pics like 30 mins ago.. it was dark)
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oh

okay!


now about that A4000T (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif) .......
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