Front End Damage, "Specialty Shop?" or "Not that tough?" |
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Front End Damage, "Specialty Shop?" or "Not that tough?" |
Buckeye '73 |
Oct 18 2005, 08:47 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 25 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Ohio Member No.: 4,963 |
OK. Picking up my new 914 this week. It's got some front end damage. (see pic).
PO got quote of $1900 to "pull" front end and "smooth out" hood. 1. Does that $$ sound about right? 2. I've got a client that does body work on classics as a "hobby". Has his own paint booth and everything. He said he just pulled a 20 year old Jag? not too long ago and it was a piece of cake. He'll do it as a favor. Do I trust him??? Thanks, Bryce Attached image(s) |
Van914 |
Oct 18 2005, 08:50 AM
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Van914 Group: Members Posts: 698 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Cincinnati, Ohio Member No.: 90 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Bruce,
Where in Ohio are you located? Van |
Buckeye '73 |
Oct 18 2005, 08:58 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 25 Joined: 17-October 05 From: Ohio Member No.: 4,963 |
Middletown - Halfway between Dayton and Cincinnati.
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Mark Henry |
Oct 18 2005, 10:24 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Take a look at his past work...
914's have a bunch of things that need to be "correct" and the average body guy will not know what is "correct". You will have to watch his work and ask here if everything is "correct"....or find a shop that knows 914's. Do it right the first time. |
736conver |
Oct 18 2005, 11:09 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,117 Joined: 25-May 03 From: SE Wisconsin Member No.: 736 Region Association: None |
I just had my front end pulled out. It was off by about 1/4 inch. The drivers side headlight bucket was also replaced. The guy/company that did it said no problem to fix. But in my ignorance I didnt even think to ask questions. This should be something you should do.
When they replaced my bucket they didnt even try to redo the factory welds. Now I have some lumpy welds that look horrible. But the price was only $600. You get what you pay for. Ask many questions. |
firstknight13 |
Oct 18 2005, 07:41 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 652 Joined: 25-March 05 From: manchester,ct. Member No.: 3,817 |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) i have a shop repair manual that has all the deminisions you need to fix it. it is also for sale!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)
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dmenche914 |
Oct 18 2005, 07:49 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,212 Joined: 27-February 03 From: California Member No.: 366 |
If the headlight buckets are pushed in as it appears int eh photos, them it is going to be lots of work, and will take a bit of talent. For the hood, heck, they are cheap at in california,verse the labor to repair one, so for big dents, we just replace them.
Whats the labor rate for a good body shop out near you? Suggest you check with a local Porsche club (even a 911 or 356 club) and ask for a body shop reference and then get a ball park figure of the repair before buying the car. If buckets are bent bad out here I'd say close to 2000 - 3000 dollars in repaires easy at a shop ( aone that know what they are doing) with the local $100 per hour labor rate. (San Fransisco area) |
MecGen |
Oct 18 2005, 07:54 PM
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8 Easy Steps Group: Members Posts: 848 Joined: 8-January 05 From: Laval, Canada Member No.: 3,421 |
Hey
Ask him what he pulls with... He better have a Dozer at a minimum, or some sort of frame machine. To set it up on a claw and pull is easy 5-10 hours, if you want to remove bumpers, and pull it properly. Use the hourly door rate at the average shop in your area. Of course it can be done with chains and jacks, you get what you pay for. + Karma your way Later (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif) |
GWN7 |
Oct 18 2005, 09:00 PM
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King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Shop rate of $100 per hr or used hood for $100-$125, I'd go with the used hood. You can get one shipped on Greyhound 1/2 way across the country for about $35.
Work back the price quote: $200-$400 for matrials (paint, sandpaper, primer, ect), Remove and replace the bumper, lenses, fogs, horns, ect...2-3 hrs.....pull car straight 5-8 hrs. Sand, mask, ect....2 hrs The $1900 sounds pretty right on. Check out your clients work. You might get lucky with what he does. |
Gint |
Oct 18 2005, 09:29 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,083 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Several things come to mind. My .02
You get what you pay for. A majority of the times I've done business (money changed hands) with friends or family, it turned out bad. The last time I did it trying to save some $$$, it cost me thousands MORE. In your case, your talking about personal business with a professional business client. Just say no. |
mikey |
Oct 19 2005, 12:55 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 423 Joined: 30-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 214 Region Association: None |
Check the wheel wells for wrinkles. I had slight damage to the left front but it was enough to wrinkle the left wheel well. The first body shop I went to just bondoed over them. I pulled the car out of that shop and brought it to another who straightened everything perfectly.
Also it's tough getting the front piece looking decent if it has been pulled and/or sectioned. In my case I got a new front piece with headlight buckets and had the body and fender man weld it in. It turned out perfect and probably cheaper in the long run. |
Brando |
Oct 19 2005, 01:13 AM
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BUY MY SPARE KIDNEY!!! Group: Members Posts: 3,935 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Santa Ana, CA Member No.: 2,648 Region Association: Southern California |
If that damage was enough to put ripples and crinkles in some panels, you might be better off having a body shop section in some pieces.
Also keep in mind if the impact was severe enough to tweak the whole unibody the car will never ride true "perfectly". Meaning it could be a safety issue if you brought it out on the track, Or someone who fully inspects the car will notice the imperfection. Be cautious how you spend your money, provide them specs and ask lots of questions (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) |
MecGen |
Oct 19 2005, 05:12 AM
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8 Easy Steps Group: Members Posts: 848 Joined: 8-January 05 From: Laval, Canada Member No.: 3,421 |
Hey Man
It realy doesn't look all that bad, realy. When talking in $$$ it looks worse, 2 days work. This type of work goes buy the hour, find the rite shop is 99% of the job here because its mostly labour later Attached image(s) |
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