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post Nov 1 2005, 08:02 PM
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So there's this lady in the same building as me right.

And she's one of these "the would bows to me types". She's got a 350Z and yesterday (because it was nice and we both had topless convertables in the parking lot) we start talking about convertables. Turns out that her cars better than mine because it's aerodynamically designed to keep the air off of her. (Which isn't suprising because everything she has is better than everyone elses.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ar15.gif) )

Meanwhile, the back of my neck still has frostbite on it and I get to thinking. What if I could retract the rear window? Viola no more deflected air!

Anybody ever tried it?

Theoritically possible?

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post Nov 1 2005, 08:04 PM
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Anything is possible with enough time and money (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 1 2005, 08:13 PM
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bad idea for a few reasons.....

it's loud, no matter what kind of engine you have (an electric motor does not count (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) )

you'll get more gas fumes coming into the cabin....

it's loud (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

I just re-installed my rear window on Sunday, just the few times I've driven it that way it was too loud...cannot remember if the wind was an issue or not, but I wouldn't do it again....

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post Nov 1 2005, 08:17 PM
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I don't think there's room for the window to slide down along the firewall. The curves in the wall would make that kinda problematical.

And I will second what Mueller said. FUCKIN LOUD!!! My ears rang for a couple of days after driving to work and back with no rear window. (It was while I was replacing the window seal.)

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post Nov 1 2005, 08:18 PM
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I seem to recall a thread on this same idea a couple of years ago on one of the 914 web sites, not sure which one though.

One of the ideas was to use the rear window from a Honda Del Sol. The overall consensus was that due to the cost to fabricate the framework required to mount the window, the limited amount of available space in the 914 driver's compartment, and the high noise levels from the engine that sits just behind you, that it was not very practicle.

But like Bruce says, with enough time and money, anything is possible.
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post Nov 1 2005, 08:19 PM
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maybe you should think up something else to impress the lady ...

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post Nov 1 2005, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE (Dave_Darling @ Nov 1 2005, 06:17 PM)
I don't think there's room for the window to slide down along the firewall. The curves in the wall would make that kinda problematical.

And I will second what Mueller said. FUCKIN LOUD!!! My ears rang for a couple of days after driving to work and back with no rear window. (It was while I was replacing the window seal.)

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Window seal? The Cap'n
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post Nov 1 2005, 08:49 PM
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I look at that idea, and you would have to cut into the body at the b-piller in order to lower the glass. A worm gear and window regulator and motor would fit if you run a 4.
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post Nov 1 2005, 09:02 PM
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Besides, if you adjust the side window down a little, the wind doesn't go down the back of your neck. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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post Nov 1 2005, 09:07 PM
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I do not know what shape your car is in but a rear sliding window would be the last, the last thing I would ever think about doing!!!!!!!!!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) Find something else to spend your money on! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)
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post Nov 1 2005, 09:15 PM
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I went as far as to pick up a mechanism from a limo to tinker around with this idea a while back. Then I read a thread about somebody or other who drove without their backglass a few times and said it was wicked loud. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif) Piss, hadn't thought of that.

The whole shebang now serves as a very nice mouse resort in one of my barns. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/monkeydance.gif)
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post Nov 1 2005, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE (Cap'n Krusty @ Nov 1 2005, 06:32 PM)
Window seal?

Yeah, the adhesive had failed along the bottom of the window, so the sum'bitch was rattling. The butyl adhesive (factory stuff, BTW, complete with the wires in it!) was the "seal" to which I was referring.

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post Nov 1 2005, 09:24 PM
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Listen to Mike, Dave and all the rest.....


NOISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALOT OF IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post Nov 1 2005, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE (SirAndy @ Nov 1 2005, 06:19 PM)
maybe you should think up something else to impress the lady ...

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Yeah, like ask her which car will be worth more in 30 years.
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post Nov 1 2005, 10:12 PM
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For neo914-6:
-I just won a del sol mechanism
-I will have alot of space at the firewall with the Audi 2.7 tt
-my engine doesn't need air cooling so I will seal the lid
-the width will be slightly shortened for tracks
-I think it will give a greater sense of open air motoring
-and I will want to hear the turbos... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)


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post Nov 1 2005, 10:18 PM
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Besides, don't all the new cabriolets have a glass "windblocker" to prevent excessive wind noise and buffeting? Seems the 914 was quite ahead of it's time in that function.
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post Nov 1 2005, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE (Mueller @ Nov 1 2005, 06:13 PM)
it's loud, no matter what kind of engine you have (an electric motor does not count (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) )

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post Nov 1 2005, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE (GeorgeRud @ Nov 2 2005, 05:18 AM)
Besides, don't all the new cabriolets have a glass "windblocker" to prevent excessive wind noise and buffeting? Seems the 914 was quite ahead of it's time in that function.

exactly!
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post Nov 1 2005, 10:55 PM
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I thought the whole idea of going with the top down was so you can feel the wind in your hair. I haven't had my roof on in 8 months. I've driven in the rain with the roof off and like the man said, "you only get wet when you stop".
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post Nov 2 2005, 06:58 AM
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you could tell her that her Datsun looks like crap with the top up. check with her on the cost to drive, payment+insurance, a year, and when does she get out of her lease?

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