 rust in the rocket panel area, any ideas how to handle this rust? |
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| bender |
 Nov 4 2005, 03:04 PM
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guys do you think its a serious rust??
and i know i need to buy the rocket panel , do i need more parts for it? thanks a lot Attached image(s) 
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| bender |
Nov 4 2005, 03:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 4-October 05 From: edison,nj Member No.: 4,910 |
more pic
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| bender |
Nov 4 2005, 03:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 4-October 05 From: edison,nj Member No.: 4,910 |
last one
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| BMartin914 |
Nov 4 2005, 03:15 PM
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That IS serious rust. That is your longitudinal - provides structural ridgidity for the car. Any rust behind the rocker panel is not good and that rust is bad.
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| Rand |
Nov 4 2005, 05:08 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
The passenger side is usually worse, so be sure to check over there thoroughly.
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| Verruckt |
Nov 4 2005, 05:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 716 Joined: 14-July 04 From: Midwest Member No.: 2,348 |
I think i see about an 1/8" of bondo in that third picture? I hope that it wasn't rigged up so it was hidden. That would suck. But yes, pretty serious rust.
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| nomore9one4 |
Nov 4 2005, 05:30 PM
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Member of the Eastcoast Thread Killers Club Group: Members Posts: 2,666 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Pittsburgh,Pa.15237 Member No.: 14 Region Association: None |
Yes it is serious. If you can weld and read it can be fixed. between this forum and Pelican Parts you can get detailed instructions on how to replace it. You will even beable to find the replacement parts. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif)
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| bender |
Nov 4 2005, 05:40 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 4-October 05 From: edison,nj Member No.: 4,910 |
which parts do you think i need?? thanks alot |
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| Andyrew |
Nov 4 2005, 05:50 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California 
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See all that red stuff?
Needs to be replaced with shiney stuff.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) You can only tell once you grind down all the rust and get to solid metal. Once you do that, then you should be able to know what needs to be reaplaced.... Currently I bet one cubic foot from the hole needs to be replaced. GL Its doable. |
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| Rouser |
Nov 4 2005, 06:02 PM
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Anti-Post Whore Group: Benefactors Posts: 597 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Citrus Park, Florida Member No.: 54  |
Best you click here, select 914 Chassis & Exterior, and possibly consider left & rights of items 1, 2, & 6, plus anything else you'll find cancer-ridden upon deep inspection. There's a whole lot more you haven't seen. |
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| bender |
Nov 5 2005, 04:12 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 4-October 05 From: edison,nj Member No.: 4,910 |
so by the pictures u saw u think for the roket panel area the items u just mentioned it will solve the problem? it needs to cut the steel out and weld the new parts??? also do you think i need also the rocket clamshells? or the chassis stiffening kit ? thanks a lot |
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| bender |
Nov 5 2005, 04:17 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 4-October 05 From: edison,nj Member No.: 4,910 |
the chassis stiffening kit
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| McMark |
Nov 5 2005, 04:17 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
You have a significant job in front of you. If can be done, step one if to stop driving the car. Step two is to start stripping parts off of it and using a wire wheel to strip back paint and rust scale to see how bad the problem really is. Finding a good drivers side section off of another car shouldn't be a problem. The passenger side is so common that used replacement panels are hard to find. If you can find one that's monstly good, then you'll be a lot better off. Buying brand new metal for those areas gets really really expensive really quick. Keep us posted. Looks like fun to me, but I'm used to it. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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| bender |
Nov 5 2005, 04:17 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 4-October 05 From: edison,nj Member No.: 4,910 |
the clamshell
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| McMark |
Nov 5 2005, 04:19 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
The chassis stiff kit get attached farther back than where your rust is. So it won't help. Get Engman's Chassis Stiff Kit instead.
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| bender |
Nov 5 2005, 04:40 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 4-October 05 From: edison,nj Member No.: 4,910 |
and what about the clamsell?? i need also or the kit that u just mentioned will do it? thanks alot p.s im sorry guys for all these questions becouse im new in it with no experiance or help so thanks agian |
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| sean_v8_914 |
Nov 5 2005, 04:54 PM
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Chingon 601 Group: Members Posts: 4,011 Joined: 1-February 05 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,541 |
there is a 914 club member that posted detail pics of a longitudinal reconstuction. His car is blue and I think the brave chap is in Germany. teh thread title was something like " You must be brave" . His craftsmanship is top notch.
I am not good with the club search tab http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...ll%20hole&st=20 the link above it not the one but it is good info |
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| grasshopper |
Nov 5 2005, 05:40 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,613 Joined: 10-December 04 From: Valdosta, GA Member No.: 3,258 Region Association: None |
here is Michelko's rust thread. RUST REPAIR Very indepth. the inspiration for my project (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) |
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| McMark |
Nov 5 2005, 07:11 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
If you can find used metal (my recommendation), you don't need the clamshell. But first you must explore just how extensive your problem is and you can not do that with carpet, seats, etc installed.
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| Trekkor |
Nov 5 2005, 07:36 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
When I saw that rust, I jumped up on top of my desk and started kicking my feet in the air like a donkey (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)
Yes, it's that bad. Take all the parts off the car that interfere with the surgery first. Poke around with a screwdriver to find where the good metal starts. Mark that. Now determine if you want to fab your own repair parts or find a section from a donor car. I like those 80 grit flap discs on an angle grinder to clean up metal FAST. KT |
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