 Billet Connecting Rods, Need your input |
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| cnavarro |
 Nov 10 2005, 08:42 AM
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Cylinder Guru  Group: Members Posts: 472 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Chicagoland! Member No.: 49 Region Association: None  |
I've been working on our new billet H beam rods in conjunction with R&R Racing Products (manufacturer of billet connecting rods for over 20 years) for both the Porsche and VW. We've already designed and done the geometry for the following rods:
porsche 356/912 porsche 3.2 carrera/3.3 turbo/964 vw 5.000" center to center t1 journal 24 pin vw 5.325, 5.5" center to centers chevy journal 22 pin (both of which are commonly fitted to the type 4 crank) The type 4 products will be retailed through Jake's online store. If there are any other sizes someone particularly wants and just has to have, call me directly and I can make it happen. If there's a non vw or porsche rod that you just have to have, again, let me know- we're working on mitsu, toyota, etc- the list goes on and on. More than likely, I can lock in the estimated price on these first sets regardless of what they end up costing in the end. Custom lengths will be no problem, as well as custom beam and bar thicknesses of the H. ARP2000 Rod bolts will be standard, L19 and Custom Age 625+ bolts are available (basic rod bolt price doubles at L19 and triples at Custom Age 625+). The material is a hopped up proprietary 4340 that gets pretty damn close to being in the range of 300M! Rods will be heat treated to 35-39 Rockwell on the C scale (comparable to Pauter and Carrillos) but we're going one step further and having them cryogenically treated as part of the heat treat process. The $1000 (for four) price tag is an estimate, as we're still working on geometry and parts programs, and not until we actually have the rods done, will we know the true price, but our target is to make a rod that blows a Carrillo out of the water for a little more than a Pauter. The design will be based on a Dyer Top Rod for those who are familiar with their small block chevy 300m rods, as they are helping us through the entire process, as all they make is one sbc rod and they want someone to make the rest of them :-) I'll be adding more information to my website as it develops. Thanks in advance for your comments and suggestions. |
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| messix |
Nov 10 2005, 10:09 AM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
seems like over kill unless your building a 600hp T4
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| Jake Raby |
Nov 10 2005, 10:12 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Nah....
There is no such thing as overkill when you are talking about connecting rods.... |
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| ChrisFoley |
Nov 10 2005, 04:55 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,986 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None 
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Charles, what about replacements for stock 1.8L rods for us rules limited racers? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)
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| Mueller |
Nov 10 2005, 05:15 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,155 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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A lot of good reading on the R&R Racing Products site....will you have your customers sign a release stating they know that these aluminum rods might not last as long as their stock rods depending on use??
They sure are pretty (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wub.gif) |
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| cnavarro |
Nov 10 2005, 05:28 PM
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Cylinder Guru Group: Members Posts: 472 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Chicagoland! Member No.: 49 Region Association: None |
Chris, I'll defer that question to Jake as to the legality or anyone else more familiar with what each racing class/group will allow.
The rods shown on R&R's site are just their existing line of aluminum rods. As I do all their web work, I'm still playing catch up and hopefully will have their updates done in the next week or so, including information about the billet steel rods. Good reference though for the quality of their work! |
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| Jake Raby |
Nov 10 2005, 05:57 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Charles, one of the samples that I gave you was for an F production rod....
Chris- That rod was the main one I was shooting for us to have made! As long as the rod is the same big and small end size as stock and the same center to center length, and is ferrous material it's production legal (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) |
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| ChrisFoley |
Nov 10 2005, 11:53 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,986 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None
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The small end doesn't have to be the same as stock, only the big end. |
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| Jake Raby |
Nov 11 2005, 12:27 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
I was referring to the fact that the wrist pin diameter can't change....
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| ChrisFoley |
Nov 11 2005, 12:32 AM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,986 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None
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Pistons and wrist pin diameter are unrestricted. I just checked my GCR. |
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| Jake Raby |
Nov 11 2005, 10:00 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Really- I never knew that!
Okay, Charles we'll be making some amendments to those drawings for the FP rods! |
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| Thorshammer |
Nov 11 2005, 08:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 749 Joined: 11-November 03 Member No.: 1,335 |
20mm, 20mm, 20mm Yeah Baby! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif)
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