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strange thing happened last night, my cars possessed |
OMB_Godfather |
Jan 2 2006, 02:00 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 49 Joined: 19-September 05 From: Bakersfield, CA Member No.: 4,823 |
Ok so i went out to my car to take my gf home and i unlocked the door, opened the door and the fuel pump turned on whiel i still had the keys in my hand i shut the door and it wouldnt turn of i had to disconnect the battery to get it to quit. i havent looked into it yet and was wondering what you guys think.
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r_towle |
Jan 2 2006, 02:25 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,588 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
just a guess...but it might be an electrical issue...
Take out the door switch...un plug it and see what happens. Rich |
OMB_Godfather |
Jan 2 2006, 02:45 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 49 Joined: 19-September 05 From: Bakersfield, CA Member No.: 4,823 |
Nope also looked at the connections to the dual relay to see if any were bent over and touching but no luck there. tried switching some of the relays around on the regulator plate no luck there either. i was wondering if there was a way to check the dual relay to see if it is burnt out.
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bd1308 |
Jan 2 2006, 02:59 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
open it up...thats what i did to see the condition of my Dual Relay.
did you try unplugging your AFM to see if the pump goes off ? Or that starter connection on the relay board with that thin yellow wire....spot II, or bottom right. b |
SirAndy |
Jan 2 2006, 03:06 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,679 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(OMB_Godfather @ Jan 2 2006, 12:00 PM) i havent looked into it yet and was wondering what you guys think. stock FI ??? if so, the brain is supposed to shut off the fuel pump after a few seconds. if that didn't happen, the power for the pump didn't come from the FI-Brain. do you have any custom wiring? was the car outside? water/moisture on the relay board? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Andy |
OMB_Godfather |
Jan 2 2006, 03:15 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 49 Joined: 19-September 05 From: Bakersfield, CA Member No.: 4,823 |
yes the car is outside and we just had a big rainstorm. it is stock Ljet fi i dotn think there is any custom wiring done i tried to put it back to original as possible. wierd that you say the fuel pump should turn off after a few seconds if the car istn started cause it never has before once i turn the key on it just stays on.
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bd1308 |
Jan 2 2006, 03:19 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
must be wired up front...
mine was till i switched to a FI pump again...it started to melt my ignition switch. I would say your fuel pump relay (#2/#3) is sticking..... OR see if there are any *EXTRA* plugs are in the FI power area ( the 4-pin square plug thing) on the relay baord. If you ground out the low-left pin, the pump will run when the ignition is turned on. b |
SirAndy |
Jan 2 2006, 03:21 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,679 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(OMB_Godfather @ Jan 2 2006, 01:15 PM) wierd that you say the fuel pump should turn off after a few seconds if the car istn started cause it never has before once i turn the key on it just stays on. aha, L-Jet ... ok, forget about what i just said ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) still, i bet it's moisture ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif) Andy |
OMB_Godfather |
Jan 2 2006, 03:23 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 49 Joined: 19-September 05 From: Bakersfield, CA Member No.: 4,823 |
(hoping) shoudl it just go back to normal once it dries out or is my relay board fried
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SirAndy |
Jan 2 2006, 03:33 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,679 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(OMB_Godfather @ Jan 2 2006, 01:23 PM) (hoping) shoudl it just go back to normal once it dries out or is my relay board fried there really isn't anything on your relay board to fry ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) as long as you didn't blow a fuse ... i know nothing about L-Jet wiring so i can't really recommend a place to look, sorry ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Andy |
OMB_Godfather |
Jan 2 2006, 04:08 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 49 Joined: 19-September 05 From: Bakersfield, CA Member No.: 4,823 |
ok so i did some diggin (and some cleaning out of hell hole) and i foudn that my dual relay has power from the battery going to 2 points on the relay. i dont know the pin numbers. does anybody have a wiring guide for that relay. also once i took the spare power off my problem was seemingly fixed the fuel pump only turned on while the key is on. but now it still runs like crap im miss firing, due to what i have no idea. is the dual relay supposed to be hot while the car is running?
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bd1308 |
Jan 2 2006, 04:16 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
no the dual relay should not be hot to the touch. Mine barely gets warm.
Snap some pics...the wiring stuff is still fresh in my head. you should have two places for battery power going to the dual relay... b |
OMB_Godfather |
Jan 2 2006, 05:08 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 49 Joined: 19-September 05 From: Bakersfield, CA Member No.: 4,823 |
i took a few pics mind you its very windy here and my parents decided to put in a tree that has a lot of littel leaves that get everywhere
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OMB_Godfather |
Jan 2 2006, 05:09 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 49 Joined: 19-September 05 From: Bakersfield, CA Member No.: 4,823 |
relay board
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OMB_Godfather |
Jan 2 2006, 05:10 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 49 Joined: 19-September 05 From: Bakersfield, CA Member No.: 4,823 |
relay board again i removed that big silver box thing (what is that) to get a better pic. also what purpose does that yellow wire have that goes to the four connections on the left
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bd1308 |
Jan 2 2006, 05:17 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
that yellow wire tells L-jet to kick the fuel pump on when the starter is engaged.
The silver box is the Voltage Regulator. Make real sure all of the connections are good, i noticed a repair crimp done to that one supply connection. b |
bd1308 |
Jan 2 2006, 05:18 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
hold up, lemme get my haynes.
i think i see a problem. b |
bd1308 |
Jan 2 2006, 05:20 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
yep.
that yellow wire should be on pin II, which is the lower right pin, not the upper right pin. b |
Dead Air |
Jan 2 2006, 05:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,268 Joined: 9-May 04 From: Buffalo, NY Member No.: 2,042 |
QUOTE(OMB_Godfather @ Jan 2 2006, 12:00 PM) i havent looked into it yet and was wondering what you guys think. [QUOTE] I think your car's possesed. Your pics are giving me a head ache (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
bd1308 |
Jan 2 2006, 05:25 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
move the yellow wire to pin II,
and check that relay by temporarily replacing it with another relay....the headlight one is fine. b Attached image(s) |
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