 Bosch 050 and 009, What's the difference? |
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| Carlitos Way |
 Jan 18 2006, 02:07 AM
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I did it MY WAY  Group: Members Posts: 1,337 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Simi Valley, CA Member No.: 2,757 Region Association: Southern California  |
Can anybody tell me the difference between these two distributors? do they use the same cap/rotor?
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| Brando |
Jan 18 2006, 05:02 AM
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BUY MY SPARE KIDNEY!!! Group: Members Posts: 3,935 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Santa Ana, CA Member No.: 2,648 Region Association: Southern California |
Same cap and rotor for both.
009 is a centrifugal (centriFRUGAL for us CSOBs) advance, 22º full advance. 050 is I *think* centrifugal and vacuum advance. |
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| Joe Ricard |
Jan 18 2006, 06:19 AM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
Nope nope and nope.
different rotor and cap both are mechanical no vacuum on either. At least the ones I have. My 050 suffers from bad bushings I think that is the only reason I switched to 009. I think the curve is much different and I remember feeling a big difference in acceleration. 009 has a "whack kick you in the back" as it comes to full advance. I'm jonesing for a Mallory but I also need new Hoosier Slicks for F Prepared class |
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| tat2dphreak |
Jan 18 2006, 08:33 AM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region  |
also, the 050 has been unavailable for quite some time... I think the 050 has more of a maximum advance.
Joe's right though, Mallory is supposed to be the way to go! |
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Jan 18 2006, 09:22 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Different cap, rotor, and condenser. Different advance curve, different total advance (17 degrees vs. 32 degrees). They look different, too. Other than that, they're the same. The Cap'n |
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| Joe Ricard |
Jan 18 2006, 09:29 AM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
Holy crap the Capt. and I agree. Better not let my Navy buddies here. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) SO which one has the 32 degrees advance? Maybe I should rebuild the 050. |
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| TJB/914 |
Jan 18 2006, 09:35 AM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,334 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest 
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Hey Guys,
Here's an up close look with #'s on a Bosch 050 Distributor. Hope that helps. Tom Attached image(s) 
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| tat2dphreak |
Jan 18 2006, 09:52 AM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
that's an 009... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/bootyshake.gif) |
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Jan 18 2006, 10:29 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
And it's NOT the $50 009 they're talking about, either. The Cap'n |
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| Aaron Cox |
Jan 18 2006, 10:37 AM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
werd 050 ran ok on my motor. to get my desired advance, i was way too retarded at idle. mallory unilite rocks.... |
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| Joe Ricard |
Jan 18 2006, 10:39 AM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
see the 009 ????
what distinguishes the good one from the bad? Attached image(s) 
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| tat2dphreak |
Jan 18 2006, 10:56 AM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
hey, even a retarted squirrel finds an acorn sometimes... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) |
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| alpha434 |
Jan 18 2006, 10:58 AM
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My member number is no coincidence. Group: Members Posts: 3,154 Joined: 16-December 05 From: Denver, CO Member No.: 5,280 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
009 doesn't have vacuum advance. Centrigugal ONLY. They work good for racing. On the motors that idle at 2 grand...
I might have to switch over to the 009 here soon. That "stutter" keeps coming back periodically |
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| Aaron Cox |
Jan 18 2006, 10:59 AM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
hope you dont have an FI motor.... cuz it wont work with djet..... and 009's blow (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif) |
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| ClayPerrine |
Jan 18 2006, 10:59 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,503 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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That picture and part number is for a stock 1.8L distributor. The 009 that is sold aftermarket does NOT have a vacuum advance on it.
It's real easy to get confused. The part number for the 1.8L distributor ends in 009, but it's not the 009 that we refer to when we talk about the "float test". |
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Jan 18 2006, 11:07 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Most 1.8 distributors don't have a 2 litre part number and trigger points. Think you might be wrong in your initial assessment. The Cap'n |
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| Joe Ricard |
Jan 18 2006, 11:08 AM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
geez I didn't even see the big ass vacuum can. What a maroon I am.
Hey I'll give ya 5 bucks for the one pictured. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| tat2dphreak |
Jan 18 2006, 11:12 AM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I thought ac.net sold a 009 that has a vacuum advance? or did I dream that? guess I was wrong on my squirrel theory after all
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| alpha434 |
Jan 18 2006, 11:15 AM
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My member number is no coincidence. Group: Members Posts: 3,154 Joined: 16-December 05 From: Denver, CO Member No.: 5,280 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
no I've got the 1.8L- so if anyone has one of those distributors pictured there, I need one. |
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| SLITS |
Jan 18 2006, 11:26 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
That image is VW and prolly a 2L bus
0 231 174 009 = VW 039 905 205 It is interchangeable with.. 0 231 174 011 which was used on the VW 2L and the Porsche 2L = 039 905 205A The 009 fitted to the 1.8L Porsche 08/73 to 07/74 ....Bosch Part# 0 231 181 009 = VW 022 905 205 AA (interchangeable with 0 231 168 005 = VW 021 905 205 P 08/74 up .............Bosch Part # 0 231 176 048 = VW 021 905 205 AB And of the 009/050 Centrifugals..there is the good one (German) and the shitty one (Brazilian). I'm not gonna look for the Bosch part number on these. Images of the 1.8L (IMG:http://www.rccauto.com/ebay/18l.jpg) (IMG:http://www.rccauto.com/ebay/18la.jpg) |
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