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Tools needed to do a ground up Resto |
proto31 |
Feb 7 2006, 11:54 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 413 Joined: 2-February 06 From: Costa Mesa, CA. Member No.: 5,515 Region Association: None |
Other than normal tools, what sort of tools will I need in order to put together a 914-6 that is entirely disassembled? Which tools are the "would be nice to have" and which are "essential?" (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)
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r_towle |
Feb 7 2006, 11:56 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,586 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
a wallet full of credit cards.
A fridge full of beer. a 13 mm wrench thats about all I can come up with. Rich |
736conver |
Feb 8 2006, 12:18 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,117 Joined: 25-May 03 From: SE Wisconsin Member No.: 736 Region Association: None |
Get yourself some pneumatic tools if you dont have any. Saves time and energy.
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SirAndy |
Feb 8 2006, 12:53 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,675 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
air tools are a god-send ... also, you'll need jackstands. more than 4. and a good floorjack. and a engine stand. a complete set of metric wrenches. twice. a good set of metric sockets. a torque wrench. cutting, grinding, welding. some special stuff, like for the CV bolts, the balljoints, the tie-rods ... i'm sure there's more ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/welder.gif) Andy |
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bjorn jacobson |
Feb 8 2006, 12:53 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 202 Joined: 10-March 04 From: LaCrosse, Wi Member No.: 1,772 |
I always start out with at least a case of beer and a couple boxes of bandaids! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
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proto31 |
Feb 8 2006, 01:53 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 413 Joined: 2-February 06 From: Costa Mesa, CA. Member No.: 5,515 Region Association: None |
Well, the beer thing is covered, I make my own and always have plenty flowing out of my 4 tap kegerator (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer.gif) What about this mysterious clutch allignment tool that I keep hearing about. Is it necessary? Does anyone have any of these tools as extra that they would't mind parting with?
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Mueller |
Feb 8 2006, 02:37 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
the clutch alignment tool is like $10 or less...you don't need one, but it makes mating the transmission to engine a little easier for one person...all it is is a replica of the input shaft on the transmission.... |
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michel richard |
Feb 8 2006, 02:37 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,291 Joined: 22-July 03 From: Longueuil, Québec Member No.: 936 |
a broomstick or even an eyeball can be enough to line-up the clutch.
There's several specialized tool you need if you're rebuilding the engine, to time the camshafts most notably. You'll also need to figure a tool out to put the rear trunk springs in. And get every variant of a 13mm tool you can find: box end, of course, offset end, swivel socket, swivel drive for 1/4 inch socket extension, open end etc . . . There may be more. |
sgomes |
Feb 8 2006, 08:43 AM
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Electric Member Group: Members Posts: 815 Joined: 6-May 04 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 2,029 |
If you get the air tools you should upgrade from bandaids to gauze and lots of it. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
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jasons |
Feb 8 2006, 08:51 AM
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Jackstand Extraordinaire Group: Members Posts: 2,002 Joined: 19-August 04 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 2,573 Region Association: None |
How about a tetanus shot?
Obviously, you need all the normal hand-tools. Wrenches, sockets, screwdrivers, pliers, etc... Air tools are definitely a plus, just be careful with them you can F up your job if you pull the trigger too soon or too long. |
ClayPerrine |
Feb 8 2006, 08:52 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,512 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
The MOST essential tool.....
A Computer with internet access so you can get advice from 914club. Plus you can use it to borrow tools (and hands) from fellow club members. |
Gint |
Feb 8 2006, 09:01 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,082 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/av-943.gif) And a full medical staff on standby. Including the funny farm truck. Get started. As you come across a need for a tool you don't have, buy it. You'll have a nicely stocked garage when you're about 1/3 of the way through. |
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URY914 |
Feb 8 2006, 09:09 AM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 121,010 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
How about a wife and family that will let you work on your car when you want?
Maybe a Stepford wife that will hand you tools, get ya a beer and make dinner too. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/w00t.gif) P (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif) |
seanery |
Feb 8 2006, 09:12 AM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
for that car, I would guess a rotisserie would help, too
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ClayPerrine |
Feb 8 2006, 09:14 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,512 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
Another important thing...
The love of a really good Toolwench! That is absolutely priceless!!! |
bjorn jacobson |
Feb 8 2006, 09:26 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 202 Joined: 10-March 04 From: LaCrosse, Wi Member No.: 1,772 |
I started to really think about this question and asked myself what tools really have made the job a lot easier.
Get a good angle grinder and quality cutoff and grinding wheels. I have been using Walther for both and these are something I could not give up. And get a canister type respirator, face shield, and ear plugs. I'll think of more and post. |
bondo |
Feb 8 2006, 10:01 AM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
I saw your car in the other thread.. You're going to need a good welder and get good at using it. Probably a tig since it's a real six. A rotisserie couldn't hurt either, although you probably want the fenders back on before loading it up.
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michael_oberg |
Feb 8 2006, 10:44 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 7-May 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 4,039 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Im doing a ground up restoration of my 1959 Ural motorcycle (partially in preparation for that porsche 914 that I will finally be ready to buy at the end of this year), and here are the tools that I have built up during the resto and have found to be essential:
- MIG welding setup. My used Lincoln 3200HD MIG came with a 20CF tank, and after having to refill after only an hour or two of use (20CF tank at 25CF/hour flow rate, you do the math), I realized that I needed a much bigger tank, and just bought a 125CF tank (ran about $110 with the 20CF tradein). - Blast cabinet with glass beads. I built my own blast cabinet from scrap steel that I accumulated cheaply over the past 9 months, and bought all the accessories (media, gun, pickup tube, gloves, misc. hardware) from TPTools. From the time and energy spent building the cabinet I should have just bought a pre-made cabinet and spent the effort on the motorcycle. Although my cabinet is rather large and I am very happy with it, I would probably buy a harbor freight unit or maybe a Barrel Blaster setup if doing it again. - Large air compressor to power the blast gun and assorted air tools. I only have 120V in my garage, so I bought the largest 110v compressor I could find (Husky 26 Gallon). It gives 5.8 CFM at 90PSI, which I have found to be pretty inadequate for any of the really useful air tools (cut-off, DA sander, etc) and of course blasting. It is OK for a small die grinder / drill / scraper, etc, but waiting for it to get back up to pressure is really annoying, and I would imagine it would be unbearable for restoring an even larger vehicle. I have since bought a 220V Ingersol-Rand 60gallon compressor rated at 12CFM@90psi, and another 60 gallon tank to prepare for all of the blasting I plan on doing soon (compressor was $225, and second tank ran me $100, both used). To get around the 120V vs 240V wiring issue, I plan on buying a 2x120V to 240V converter. - Home powder coating setup. I plan on powder coating the entire bike, which is still probably less sq ft than what I would recommend powder coating on your 914. I bought the gun and powder from Eastwood, and just use a cardboard and duct tape shroud for overspray / easy media recycling. Find a used oven and you would be all set. I just picked up an industrial InfraRed curing setup (for $200) and will see how that works. - 4 1/2" angle grinder. Buy a nice one to use for your grinding wheels, which you may be using a lot, and an el cheapo for the cutting disks. Not having to swap out the grinding wheel and cutting disks all the time is a huge time saver. - Bench Buffer. I have been buffing and polishing all of the metal components, then giving them a high gloss powder coat and have been really happy with the results, but may be non-essential for you. This Site, as well as 914world.com has been a huge help for me in deciding to do almost everything myself, and to see how straightforward some things can be (powder coating, plating, painting). Doing it this way can be time-consuming, but hugely rewarding - and a little lighter on the pocketbook. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) Good luck on your 914! - Michael |
Joe Ricard |
Feb 8 2006, 10:52 AM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
BIG FAT CHECK BOOK
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bondo |
Feb 8 2006, 10:56 AM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
Damn you... Now you've got me looking into home electroplating.. Grr! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) |
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