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| Joe Bob |
 Sep 6 2003, 03:53 PM
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| drew365 |
Sep 6 2003, 04:02 PM
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These are the good old days! Group: Members Posts: 2,004 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Sunny So. Cal. Member No.: 37 |
Looks like you're gaining a new deck also. Is that going to be your hide out?
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| Joe Bob |
Sep 6 2003, 04:04 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Yeah....the deck will also have a hoop for the kids. I figure 22x25 will be cool for that.
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| Air_Cooled_Nut |
Sep 6 2003, 04:17 PM
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914 Ronin - 914 owner who lost his 914club.com Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Beaverton, Oregon Member No.: 584 Region Association: None |
Gonna pour a 6" cement floor for a car lift? Can the ceiling support 2.5 tons for a trolly/hoist rail? 240v along side 120v outlets for welders/air compressors? Or a central location for the air compressor with hard lines threading the garage?
Come on, what are some of the details? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif) |
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| Joe Bob |
Sep 6 2003, 04:36 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Already has 6 inch slab...that's code, 220 v is not an option w/o relocating utility lines and upgrading the service, so 110 and a 220v generator.
Will have cable service...both modem and TV with built amp and stereo system..... |
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| elmonte |
Sep 6 2003, 04:44 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 225 Joined: 31-March 03 From: Danville.ca Member No.: 499 |
Envious, only have one car plus small shop garage, wife parks her car outside
and i thank her for that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) |
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| redshift |
Sep 6 2003, 06:28 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
You need a huge plasma, and a surround system, all tied to your network, so you can stream video.. with a nice camera, so you can stream both ways.
Everyone will have this in the future, in their underground helipads. God, you have such a nice view.. I look out my window, and all you can see is ass... it's ass all over here.. M |
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| Rusty |
Sep 7 2003, 08:17 AM
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Wanted: Engine case GA003709 Group: Admin Posts: 7,942 Joined: 24-December 02 From: North Alabama Member No.: 6 Region Association: Galt's Gulch 
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| Joe Bob |
Sep 7 2003, 09:08 AM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Access is via a private road on the side.....butthead.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/finger.gif)
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| Rusty |
Sep 7 2003, 07:33 PM
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Wanted: Engine case GA003709 Group: Admin Posts: 7,942 Joined: 24-December 02 From: North Alabama Member No.: 6 Region Association: Galt's Gulch
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You gonna keep the cabana boys to rub you down with oil on the deck?
-Rusty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/finger.gif) |
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| Joe Bob |
Sep 7 2003, 07:39 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Cabana MENs...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif)
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| Curvie Roadlover |
Sep 7 2003, 07:50 PM
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Two trunks are better than one! Group: Members Posts: 2,025 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Southeast Michigan Member No.: 42 |
Looking at the tire tracks on the private road, looks like somebody had a "moment" there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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| maf914 |
Sep 8 2003, 07:09 AM
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Not a Guru! Group: Members Posts: 3,049 Joined: 30-April 03 From: Central Florida Member No.: 632 Region Association: None
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Mike,
That's a pretty fancy roof/floor assembly, all pre-fab beams. What material will be used for the deck? Mike |
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| Joe Bob |
Sep 8 2003, 07:22 AM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Plans call for a hot mop and roll type asphaltic shingle.....looking for something else to use that sheds water and can be used to play basketball...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif)
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| Randal |
Sep 8 2003, 01:37 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
Looking at and reading your last post brought up 15 years of frustration with our deck which is framed over our garage. Our house is built into and up a hill.
I've ripped out the concrete two times and replaced various and sundry "waterproof" systems to try to eliminate the leaking, but so far have not succeeded. The problem comes with heat expansion and use. Our patio is just for sitting and watching the golf course, bbq, etc. but regardless of the system I've used the heat expansion and contraction has always caused leads eventually. For the last rebuild (rip out the slate, concrete and underlay to get to the plywood flooring and remove the porch siding) I've used elastomeric cloth and filler. First on the plywood and then on top of the slab and up the sides. I've always wanted to ask Norm Abrams what he would do. Maybe a solid welded copper sheet is the only way; but how would that take the stress of basketball? Anyway I'll be interested in seeing what you decide to do to use. |
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| redshift |
Sep 8 2003, 01:40 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
QUOTE(mikez @ Sep 8 2003, 09:22 AM) looking for something else to use that sheds water and can be used to play basketball...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif) Inner-city kids seem to do pretty well. M |
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| r_towle |
Sep 8 2003, 03:57 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,591 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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EPDM Rubber roof is a great seamless solution.
Caution, life span is fifteen years. Cannot be directly exposed to UV rays or it will decay faster. There are UV tolerant rubber roofs, but I would not use them. They dont seal very well. After you get the roof down, put down sleepers, (2*4's on the flat....just floating there. Build a curb around the edge to hold the entire floor from slipping or moving. Then use the RIGHT LENGTH screws to screw decking to the sleepers. In the case of a basketball court I would recomend possibly a redwood 1.5 inch thick deck material. this system gives you access to the rubber within an hour or so once you unscrew all the decking. Also Trust me here....pay up for stainless screws. You will be able to get them out in ten years. This system is common in the northeast for flat roof/deck systems. We have to deal with snow and Ice which does a number on the expansion and contraction of different materials and I have found that rubber works best. Besides that, rubber is home owner repairable with the right glue and the right rubber it is fairly simple. You can also put concrete pavers directly over rubber (they sell a little pad that goes in between so the concrete paver does not actually touch the rubber) Rich |
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| drew365 |
Sep 8 2003, 05:25 PM
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These are the good old days! Group: Members Posts: 2,004 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Sunny So. Cal. Member No.: 37 |
Mike; one other option. There is a decking system called Tufflex, it is used for commercial applications such as ski areas that get above average wear. There is a supply house in Santa Barbara called Decorative Protective Coatings that carry it plus many other brands. The owners name is Mike Rottapell, and the guy is a walking encyclopedia on water proofing. His number is (805) 963-3126. He's a great guy, tell him Andy Ritter said hi. I guarantee he will solve your deck problem. You definately don't want to put a hot mop material down.
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| JeffBowlsby |
Sep 8 2003, 05:49 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,535 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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QUOTE You definately don't want to put a hot mop material down. Right on. No hot mop for this condition. Mike there are a number of ways to specify and detail a waterproof deck above occupiable space. While some of the above methods may be moderately acceptable, I would recommend a different approach. I am a Forensic Architect and I investigate building leaks and specify repairs for a living. If your structure is engineered for it, optimally, use a concealed waterproofing membrane (flood test it for 48 hours), then protection board then drainmat, then a reinforced concrete topping slab, or mortar and tile finish. You need to assure that the water drains from the waterproofing membrane which must be sloped to drain (1/4 inch per foot) to drain. The top of the concrete topping slab can be sloped 1/8 inch per foot for foot traffic convenience. If your structure wont handle the weight of the concrete, you need an exposed membrane which needs to be sloped to drain. Dex-O-Tex and similar products would be a good bet, but they need recoating every ~5 years or so to maintain their serviceability. Either way, you need to resolve all the perimeter details, railing attachments, penetrations and other conditions to assure drainage and a watertight installation. |
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| drew365 |
Sep 8 2003, 07:20 PM
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These are the good old days! Group: Members Posts: 2,004 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Sunny So. Cal. Member No.: 37 |
Bowlsby; do you know a guy named John Bucholtz? I feel pretty sure you probably do. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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