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914 Rear Fog Light Switch |
cdn914 |
Apr 29 2006, 10:23 AM
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cdn914 Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Winnipeg, Canada Member No.: 1,801 Region Association: Canada |
What does the switch (insert in particular) for the 914 rear fog light look like? Is it red? I would like to see a photo and know if anyone has one for sale.
I am still looking for part of the bracket as well. Gord Luy cdn914@mts.net |
McMark |
Apr 29 2006, 10:28 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Very few 914s came with a rear fog light stock.
I would find it hard to image there was a second switch. If it's foggy, you're going to want front and rear fog lights on, which means they can be run off of one switch. When I wired up a custom rear fog light, that's what I did. One switch turned on all three lights. Attached image(s) |
cdn914 |
Apr 29 2006, 02:12 PM
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cdn914 Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Winnipeg, Canada Member No.: 1,801 Region Association: Canada |
Very few 914s came with a rear fog light stock. I would find it hard to image there was a second switch. If it's foggy, you're going to want front and rear fog lights on, which means they can be run off of one switch. When I wired up a custom rear fog light, that's what I did. One switch turned on all three lights. I already have wired the car for the rear fog light using the factory wiring originally intended for the rear window defogger, as my 914 (914-6) does not have this option. I will explain how I did this in a future "article" in case anyone else is interested. I know that the 911s had a separate rear fog light switch and mostly for novelty sake, I prefer a separate switch. I even had a factory rear fog light wiring harness I modified for the purpose. I have posted this question about the rear fog light switch also to some of the VW crowd as any switch likely was from the VW Hella parts bin. |
Mark Henry |
Apr 29 2006, 03:25 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
The front fog light switch itself is the same switch as the rear window defog switch. It is a standard switch that was used in early beetles for the emergency flashers.
Sorry no clue on the insert. |
914Sixer |
Apr 29 2006, 08:02 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,903 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I remember having a car with the rear foglight. It had the green insert for the fronts and a yellow(Late style) one for the rear. I do not know if this was correct though.
The bracket parts are NLA. |
cdn914 |
Apr 29 2006, 08:22 PM
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cdn914 Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Winnipeg, Canada Member No.: 1,801 Region Association: Canada |
I remember having a car with the rear foglight. It had the green insert for the fronts and a yellow(Late style) one for the rear. I do not know if this was correct though. The bracket parts are NLA. This is what I intend to do unless I hear that a different insert is correct for the rear fog light switch. I have the base of the bracket, but am missing the angled part similar to what another 914er on this site is looking for. |
John |
Apr 29 2006, 08:39 PM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
The fog lights (front and rear {if rear is provided}) are all energized by the same (single) fog light switch just as they are done on euro 911/930s.
I believe that there were two distinct fog light switch inserts green (early) and amber (late). Both were illuminated switches (illuminated when on). [the parts book only lists an amber one] Normally, a single rear fog lamp (901.631.251.00) is mounted (driver side). just my $0.02 |
Aaron Cox |
Apr 29 2006, 08:41 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
The fog lights (front and rear {if rear is provided}) are all energized by the same (single) fog light switch just as they are done on euro 911/930s. I believe that there were two distinct fog light switch inserts green (early) and amber (late). Both were illuminated switches (illuminated when on). [the parts book only lists an amber one] Normally, a single rear fog lamp (901.631.251.00) is mounted (driver side). just my $0.02 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) i have an early green switch for the stock fog wiring, and i used a late amber one for the hella rally lights. johnman is right - one switch did front and rear fogs. |
pfierb |
Apr 30 2006, 05:00 AM
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oldest member Group: Members Posts: 606 Joined: 1-May 05 From: The sign of good government in Connecticut is to keep raising taxes Member No.: 4,008 |
Very few 914s came with a rear fog light stock. I would find it hard to image there was a second switch. If it's foggy, you're going to want front and rear fog lights on, which means they can be run off of one switch. When I wired up a custom rear fog light, that's what I did. One switch turned on all three lights. I already have wired the car for the rear fog light using the factory wiring originally intended for the rear window defogger, as my 914 (914-6) does not have this option. I will explain how I did this in a future "article" in case anyone else is interested. I know that the 911s had a separate rear fog light switch and mostly for novelty sake, I prefer a separate switch. I even had a factory rear fog light wiring harness I modified for the purpose. I have posted this question about the rear fog light switch also to some of the VW crowd as any switch likely was from the VW Hella parts bin. I have a Hella rear fog lite from about 30 years ago still in the original box and the switch is is mounted on a bracket that bolts to the underside of the dash.....also the switch knob is amber colored and lights up when the switch is pulled out to the on position. |
East coaster |
Apr 30 2006, 05:11 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,691 Joined: 28-March 03 From: Millville, NJ Member No.: 487 Region Association: None |
This is a factory fog light installed flush in the rear panel by the factory. It's a 1971 and had a green insert in the switch.
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TJB/914 |
Apr 30 2006, 06:25 AM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,336 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Hey Guys,
Been researching this rear fog light installation & parts required for some time & here is what I believe is "factory correct". I have attached the parts diagram showing brackets, etc. First thing regarding the correct "factory" suggested mounting. Rear fog light goes on the driver side. height of the fog lamp is determined by bracdet #87 then positioned along side the tail light. Many were mounted differently, but this is factory suggested or was dealer installed. Here are a few pictures showing misc items. Hopefully I can include all my pics in one frame. Note: one of the pics showing the rear of my fog light has a 911 bracket. I need to find & replace it with bracket #86. Anyone have one?? I need it. Attached image(s) |
TJB/914 |
Apr 30 2006, 06:31 AM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,336 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Forgot to add these pictures.
One picture shows where bracket #87 fits inside the trunk & how it will determine height of the fog lamp outside. Other picture was sent to me by Aaron some time back showing a correct factory mount fog lamp. I might position it closer to the tail light if it was me??? I also understand both front & rear fog lights were on the same switch. Tom Attached image(s) |
TJB/914 |
Apr 30 2006, 06:51 AM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,336 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Again,
Thought I would add a little CW interest story to my above post. Notice the picture of the inside of my truck area showing the wiring wrapped in electrical tape. Story: When I restored my car I took the wiring apart to clear & restore. Putting it back together I could not find the correct tape (it's not available in the U.S.). It's in mm & about 1/2" wide made of a cloth type material (Germany issue). I ended up cutting down 3/4" electrical tape into 1/2" strips to duplicate the original attachment. One of my good buddy's (Gary Stellmach) had a friend visiting from the East Coast. Bob's a real CW nut. First thing he noticed Mr eagle eye Bob from the East Coast & pointed it out. Moral of the story: Don't be a CW it's an illness. Tom So there, that's a non factory restored part on my car. BTW it's only in the rear trunk area. I fixed all the other wiring harness to "factory" (Mr. Bob East Coast CW (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flipa.gif) ). |
Eric_Shea |
Apr 30 2006, 09:52 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE i have an early green switch for the stock fog wiring, and i used a late amber one for the hella rally lights That's what I wanna do... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) |
cdn914 |
Apr 30 2006, 10:15 AM
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cdn914 Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Winnipeg, Canada Member No.: 1,801 Region Association: Canada |
This is a factory fog light installed flush in the rear panel by the factory. It's a 1971 and had a green insert in the switch. East coaster, Do you have any additional photos (from side and back) of how your rear fog light is mounted? Yours is noticeably different than those which appear to use the factory bracket. I find the factory bracket to look clumsy causing the fog light to stick out from the rear panel too much. What brand of rear fog light is on your 914? I have a chrome Hella unit but it is more bulky than what you have. Gord |
boxstr |
Apr 30 2006, 10:35 AM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Hockey stick tape cut in half, for the correct width, duplicates the factory cloth tape used to wrap the wirning looms on the 914 and other a Porsches.
CCLINCW |
michel richard |
Apr 30 2006, 10:52 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,291 Joined: 22-July 03 From: Longueuil, Québec Member No.: 936 |
Hockey stick tape cut in half, for the correct width, duplicates the factory cloth tape used to wrap the wirning looms on the 914 and other a Porsches. CCLINCW And a person from Oregon, or the California desert knows about hockey stick tape ? I'm officially impressed. Go Habs Go. |
rickyhgarcia |
Apr 30 2006, 11:10 AM
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UPS truck is here... Group: Members Posts: 293 Joined: 13-June 04 From: Miami, Florida Member No.: 2,198 |
Where can all these parts be sourced from? Especially bracket #87 which determines the height of the lamp fixture.
I installed a JWest Engineering fog lamp flasher kit. It is mentioned here that front and rear fog lamps used the same cabin switch. Would the flasher kit also trigger the rear lamp? Is there a correct exact location of the lamp relative to the driver side´s rear light lens? |
TJB/914 |
Apr 30 2006, 11:21 AM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,336 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Ricky,
Bracket #87 can still be purchased through your local Porsche dealer. I bought mine about 6-months ago and the cost was about $5.00 plus another $25.00 to ship out of Germany. Here's a picture of a sketch I made up from the original part. Hope that helps. With bracket #87 is like a no brainer. Note: Bracket #86 is no longer available. Need to find one in circulation??? I am thinking about having my 100% German hertage wife make me one. That way it's original German made. It will be expensive & she is one block headed German to work with (but I love her anyway). Tom Attached image(s) |
sjhowitson |
Apr 30 2006, 11:45 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 478 Joined: 4-August 04 From: Moraga, CA Member No.: 2,449 |
Now I want one. Does anybody have a picture of the fog light turned on. I would like to see how bright it is.
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