 My 914 was hit... (pictures), Advice wanted... draft letter to Mr. Buttmunch (not Zois) |
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| Rusty |
  May 18 2006, 08:16 AM
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Wanted: Engine case GA003709  Group: Admin Posts: 7,941 Joined: 24-December 02 From: North Alabama Member No.: 6 Region Association: Galt's Gulch 
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I posted on Pelican... my car was "dented" when the place I was renting decided to have the garage door fixed.
Below is a draft letter to Mister Buttmunch. Aside from arranging a contract for Mr. Buttmunch, am I missing anything in the letter? QUOTE Mr. B****y, The damage is extensive. Please call the police and file a report, if you have not already done so. Once the report is complete, I would appreciate it scanned into an Adobe PDF file. Any competent print shop can do so, and I'll be happy to reimburse the cost to you. They hit the car hard enough for the chrome bumper plug to fall out (the hole the lawrence3 photo, lower left). Aside from paint, there are several issues: First is structural. The metal panel that was struck is perpendicular to the rear trunk floor where the transmission mounts. That will need to be checked by a body shop very familiar with this model car. Next, the decklid (rear trunk lid) may need to be replaced. Picture 4 shows that it is misaligned. I can't tell if the entire lid is warped. The lid hinges and mounting points need to be checked. The bumper top is unrepairable. Impossible to know if the chrome bumper is intact without disassembly - damage to the top mounting surface is possible, as the rubber top is bolted to the top of the chrome unit. Please invite the adjuster. I will be interested in his comments. You may print this for him if you like. I will try to arrange to have someone with a high resolution digital camera come visit to take pictures. I will let you know when they will able to visit. Thank you. Attached image(s)    
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| tdgray |
May 18 2006, 08:22 AM
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Thank God Nemo is not here to see this Group: Members Posts: 9,705 Joined: 5-August 03 From: Akron, OH Member No.: 984 Region Association: None |
Damn L that sucks.
That's going to be spendy fix to say the least. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Other than you threatening him with sending Guido over no I think you covered everything. |
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| rhodyguy |
May 18 2006, 08:32 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,084 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
htf does repairing a door evolve into backing into a car with a truck. looks like a reciever hitch tattoo to me. wait till they see a bill for $4k. the pooping will be huge. is that one of those early bumpers? old, OLD, AA cat- $1062 new (if you can find one), $570 used (iycfo), $650 repro (iycfo). can i have the used/defective chrome plug?
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| Rusty |
May 18 2006, 08:45 AM
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Wanted: Engine case GA003709 Group: Admin Posts: 7,941 Joined: 24-December 02 From: North Alabama Member No.: 6 Region Association: Galt's Gulch
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QUOTE(rhodyguy @ May 18 2006, 05:32 PM)  htf does repairing a door evolve into backing into a car with a truck. looks like a reciever hitch tattoo to me. wait till they see a bill for $4k. the pooping will be huge. is that one of those early bumpers? old, OLD, AA cat- $1062 new (if you can find one), $570 used (iycfo), $650 repro (iycfo). can i have the used/defective chrome plug? k They had to push the cars out of the garage. Before I stored the cars, I fogged the cylinders with oil and disabled the ignitions in several places. Nothing most of *us* couldn't troubleshoot quickly, but your average teenage joyrider wasn't going to get the car started. I dunno where the plug went. Some minimum wage handiman probably thought it was funny that "the guy with the Porsche got his." I suspect the plug is long gone, but you can have it. Damn... we're all buzzards here, huh? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It wasn't the ultra-rare early (sharp-angled) bumper. I'd be in tears. This all started when I got the below email on the 11th. What a prick. QUOTE We completed the replacement of the garage door yesterday, and moved the Porsches in and out without a problem. The bad news is that when we raised the door, it appears that there is a dent on the 914 just above the rear bumper on the drivers side. I need to know if there was a dent there before the problem with the door. I took pictures and am contacting the insurance company again. I will contact an auto body place to get an estimate if you desire. Apparently "without a problem" has been redefined to encompass "dented the f*ck out of your prized possession". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) I haven't yet heard an apology. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flipa.gif) -Rusty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) |
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| Bleyseng |
May 18 2006, 09:05 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Probably rolled it out of the garage into a truck parked there not paying attention when ithey rolled it out until it hit it.
Great effin news....sorry Rusty. |
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| Rusty |
May 18 2006, 09:10 AM
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Wanted: Engine case GA003709 Group: Admin Posts: 7,941 Joined: 24-December 02 From: North Alabama Member No.: 6 Region Association: Galt's Gulch
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QUOTE(Bleyseng @ May 18 2006, 06:05 PM) Probably rolled it out of the garage into a truck parked there not paying attention when ithey rolled it out until it hit it. Great effin news....sorry Rusty. I don't think so. The garage is at the bottom of a hill. They actually had to roll the car up a slow grade to get it out of the garage. They had to hit the car while it was parked. Yeah. It was nice to own a no-rust, never-hit 914 for a little while. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) So... anything I'm missing from this letter? I think this guy wants to have the car repaired before I get back to Kansas. Nuh-uh. No way. Not gonna happen like that... for SO many reasons. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) -Rusty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) |
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| rhodyguy |
May 18 2006, 09:10 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,084 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
without problem huh? except... deploy the A-10s. only $252.50 for a bumpertop. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shocked[1].gif)
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| Rusty |
May 18 2006, 09:12 AM
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Wanted: Engine case GA003709 Group: Admin Posts: 7,941 Joined: 24-December 02 From: North Alabama Member No.: 6 Region Association: Galt's Gulch
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QUOTE(rhodyguy @ May 18 2006, 06:10 PM) without problem huh? except... deploy the A-10s. only $252.50 for a bumpertop. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shocked[1].gif) k That's cheaper than I thought. I thought the price had crept up to ~400. |
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| rhodyguy |
May 18 2006, 09:18 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,084 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
that's current bird pricing. old AA $361.50. zoiks!! use aa prices for the parts estimate.(IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) then buy my pretty nice rear bumper with no tat holes. you can make some dough on this deal. little compensation for the hassle factor.
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| Brando |
May 18 2006, 09:19 AM
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BUY MY SPARE KIDNEY!!! Group: Members Posts: 3,935 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Santa Ana, CA Member No.: 2,648 Region Association: Southern California |
Send them an estimate of prices based on NEW.
NEW rear hood. NEW chrome bumper. NEW rubber bumper top. And tell them they can either send you a check so you can hunt the parts down, or they can have their insurance hunt the parts down while you send it to a shop of your choice. Tell them you will not settle for any less than brand new parts. That should make them pay out the ass. What, some of that is NLA? Someone has to have new stuff hiding somewhere... |
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| ClayPerrine |
May 18 2006, 09:28 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,501 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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You need me to head north to take detailed picts for you???
Also, I would send them here for a reference for parts pricing. You KNOW we will tell them the parts are expensive enough so that you get it fixed right!! Also, we can bring it to DFW and have Richard Fisher fix it. He won't do it halfway. |
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| Jeroen |
May 18 2006, 10:00 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
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what a bunch of .... tear them a new one! |
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| Dr Evil |
May 18 2006, 10:24 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Man, after all of the work and effort we did to get that car perfect. I hope you get it right again.
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| tdgray |
May 18 2006, 10:48 AM
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Thank God Nemo is not here to see this Group: Members Posts: 9,705 Joined: 5-August 03 From: Akron, OH Member No.: 984 Region Association: None |
Not to pile it on but I would be careful with that color.
It will take a very talented painter to blend that color properly. You might take that into consideration as well. |
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| skline |
May 18 2006, 12:01 PM
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Born to Drive Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 17 Region Association: Southern California |
I hope they are not going to use the pictures you posted as they are dated 1987 and could be misconstrued as existing damage. That really sucks Rusty, I hope they fix it back the way it was.
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| GTeener |
May 18 2006, 05:07 PM
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914 Girl Group: Members Posts: 2,348 Joined: 25-June 04 From: SillyCon Valley Member No.: 2,249 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(skline @ May 18 2006, 11:01 AM) I hope they are not going to use the pictures you posted as they are dated 1987 and could be misconstrued as existing damage. That really sucks Rusty, I hope they fix it back the way it was. But the registration on the plates say 2006 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) L- Sucks, Dude! They owe you extra for mental anguish! |
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| effutuo101 |
May 19 2006, 12:06 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,735 Joined: 10-April 05 From: Lemon Grove Member No.: 3,914 Region Association: Southern California |
That really sucks...F*#$K um. Tell them all to pack sand...all new parts and a complete respray of the entire car. Matching the color is one thing, but you will be able to tell that the colors are just a little bit off. A lady hit my Jetta and the paint guy claimed that the color was a perfect match. Nothing like trying to show an obviously color blind person where his "blend" line was. Good luck and I hope you get your car back the way it was.
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| Rusty |
May 19 2006, 12:25 AM
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Wanted: Engine case GA003709 Group: Admin Posts: 7,941 Joined: 24-December 02 From: North Alabama Member No.: 6 Region Association: Galt's Gulch
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I'm not too worried about mental anguish, etc. I don't want to make anything on the deal, or be compensated for more than the actual damage. I'm not even there, so I can't claim that I didn't have a car to drive.
I have an inherent distrust of insurance companies when it comes to old cars. Their job is to make money for shareholders by paying me the least that I will accept. What they can't make right is me no longer having a classic car that had never been hit. My hope was to make the car concours someday. The rear bumper top wasn't perfect, but it was functional. I just dread the whole quibbling process. Not sure if I should start sending certified letters or if an email trail will be enough. Gonna have to call someone, I guess. I don't want to get screwed because I'm not there. -Rusty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) |
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| Rusty |
May 19 2006, 12:58 AM
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Wanted: Engine case GA003709 Group: Admin Posts: 7,941 Joined: 24-December 02 From: North Alabama Member No.: 6 Region Association: Galt's Gulch
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After getting some sleep (I was running on 7 hours in the last four days)... I decided on this much more civil note back.
QUOTE Mr. B****y, Thank you for scanning the pictures and sending them to me. Would it be too much trouble to have someone with a high-resolution digital camera visit to take some close-ups? I'd like to have someone who knows the car well take some specific shots. I know a few people in the area who are familiar with older Porsches. I appreciate you being proactive in calling the adjuster. I'm certainly interested in his comments. If necessary, please feel free to give him my contact information. I don't know which insurance company(s) will be involved. Hopefully the claim won't be against your coverage. However, because I imagine that there will be at least a couple of companies quibbling, I wonder if it would be wise to have a police report filed. What do you think? Thank you. |
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| Brett W |
May 19 2006, 07:50 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,856 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None
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If this is not solved right, I will have Guido come by and rattle a few chains. Watch them and make sure they don't try and weasel out of the responsibilty.
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