 FI to carb question, got a line on a car |
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| terrymason |
 Jun 29 2006, 12:08 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 346 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Virginia Beach Member No.: 5,174  |
I'm going to look at another 914 on Sunday. It started as a 74 2.0, but then due to a knock, the engine was replaced with a 1.8, with a carb on top.
What are the right questions to ask, and assuming a "normal" amount of rust for an east coast car, what would it's value be (hard question, I know). I'm thinking that to go from FI to a single carb on this car, they should have changed the cam and heat exchangers - is that correct? and if they didn't, what would be the outcome (loss of power I assume). Any ballpark on the cost of buying a 2.0L with FI to drop in? I'm thinking this would probably be a $4500 car, as long as it looks great inside and out. |
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| Joe Bob |
Jun 29 2006, 12:12 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
3-5K....depending on condition....plus installation costs.
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| terrymason |
Jun 29 2006, 12:15 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 346 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Virginia Beach Member No.: 5,174 |
he's got the original, but threw away the FI. I guess I'd need to have it overhauled, then buy all the FI stuff.
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| jimkelly |
Jun 29 2006, 12:17 PM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
or get a fi system for the 1.8 or get dual carbs though it probably has the fi cam.
the difference between 1.7 1.8 2.0 is not so dramatic - not enough to swap out a good motor for one of slightly greater displacement. jim |
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| terrymason |
Jun 29 2006, 02:22 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 346 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Virginia Beach Member No.: 5,174 |
QUOTE(jimkelly @ Jun 29 2006, 10:17 AM)  or get a fi system for the 1.8 or get dual carbs though it probably has the fi cam. the difference between 1.7 1.8 2.0 is not so dramatic - not enough to swap out a good motor for one of slightly greater displacement. jim Got an estimate for a dual carb setup? Maybe 600 worth of parts, and 500 labor? Also, if it has a FI cam, will that make a big difference? |
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| lapuwali |
Jun 29 2006, 02:28 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743  |
New IDFs are about $1K for the set. I doubt that includes manifolds, linkage, etc. Used IDFs are about $250 for the carbs, then another $300 or thereabouts for new manifolds, linkage, etc. Etc. includes a new fuel pump, and you might as well get new hose, too. I have no idea what labor would run. It's about an afternoon's worth of work.
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| terrymason |
Jun 29 2006, 02:34 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 346 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Virginia Beach Member No.: 5,174 |
QUOTE(lapuwali @ Jun 29 2006, 12:28 PM) New IDFs are about $1K for the set. I doubt that includes manifolds, linkage, etc. Used IDFs are about $250 for the carbs, then another $300 or thereabouts for new manifolds, linkage, etc. Etc. includes a new fuel pump, and you might as well get new hose, too. I have no idea what labor would run. It's about an afternoon's worth of work. Does IDF stand for a brand of carb, or a type (search will not let me look for a 3 letter word ) |
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| Dave_Darling |
Jun 29 2006, 02:59 PM
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That's a particular type of Weber carb. Weber 40IDF, most likely.
--DD |
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| lapuwali |
Jun 29 2006, 03:03 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
IDF is the carb you use for "dual carbs".
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| type47 |
Jun 29 2006, 03:12 PM
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Viermeister Group: Members Posts: 4,254 Joined: 7-August 03 From: Vienna, VA Member No.: 994 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
not 4500 for a car w/replaced 2.0 with a 1.8 with a carb.... if you buy it for 4500, you will really be upside down in the car if you then buy a 2.0 or buy 1.8 FI stuff. not that a 914 is an investment but i'd bet you could get a more correct car for 4500. just my opinion which is worth .01.
centreville huh? you can come look at my 74 1.8..... in vienna i don't think they necessarily had to change the cam and HE for the carbs. most often the case is the owner couldn't fix the FI and slapped on a carb. the single carb makes me think that's the case even more. i've seen drop in 2.0's in the 1200 range. |
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| lotus_65 |
Jun 30 2006, 04:18 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,608 Joined: 21-March 05 From: minneapolis, mn Member No.: 3,795 Region Association: Northstar Region |
there are differences in carb linkage setups too, which makes a difference in how easy they are to tune and keep there. (mine's from pmo [they do idf setups too], and i get complements)
that said, i wouldn't go carbs again. they look cool and sound cool, but considering i just street my car, i wish i had one of the slick replacement fi setups available these days. paul |
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