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> Would you rather?, Loose lbs, or gain HP?
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post Sep 25 2006, 08:54 PM
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914 fairy godmother shows up and offers to subtract 100 lbs off of your car or add 50 hp. What do you choose?
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post Sep 25 2006, 08:58 PM
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50 hp is a 50 percent increase for alot of people here and even more than that for others.
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post Sep 25 2006, 08:59 PM
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easy the 50hp. but if the question was more equal of hp to lbs, i would take loosing the weight, braking and the suspension would benefit on top of the hp to weight ratio.
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post Sep 25 2006, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(So.Cal.914 @ Sep 25 2006, 06:58 PM) *

50 hp is a 50 percent increase for alot of people here and even more than that for others.



ok - godmother said "inch pounds" or something . . . I was thinking of my car, cleaning the carb and changing plugs gets me close to 50 hp.

so make it = for your car . . .

Weight or HP???

and what is the over / under for your car?
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post Sep 25 2006, 09:09 PM
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um.. I'll take the 100 lbs... (thats just because I have too much hp already..)

But a close fight would be taking 10% of your weight off, or adding 15% to your hp/tq figures.
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post Sep 25 2006, 09:39 PM
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weight reduction pays in many more ways besides fster acceleration. I'll take it off please.
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post Sep 25 2006, 09:51 PM
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As Colin Chapman so beautifully demonstrated, when in doubt, add lightness!
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post Sep 25 2006, 09:57 PM
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I'd like a 25hp increase and 50lbs off my fat ass.
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post Sep 25 2006, 09:59 PM
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I'd lose the weight and stay at the same HP!
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post Sep 25 2006, 10:04 PM
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post Sep 25 2006, 10:05 PM
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For me it is 100 lbs / 50 hp - what is the magic # for you . . . where would you think about the HP for 100 # reduction?
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post Sep 25 2006, 10:08 PM
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The common figure thrown arround is that 100 lbs equals about 10hp.

so let me ask you a question; would you rather choose the 100lbs or the 10hp figure?

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post Sep 25 2006, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(brant @ Sep 25 2006, 09:08 PM) *

The common figure thrown arround is that 100 lbs equals about 10hp.

so let me ask you a question; would you rather choose the 100lbs or the 10hp figure?

brant

Assuming it is less than $40 per pound, right? Or whatever your ratio is! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)
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post Sep 25 2006, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(brant @ Sep 25 2006, 08:08 PM) *

The common figure thrown arround is that 100 lbs equals about 10hp.

so let me ask you a question; would you rather choose the 100lbs or the 10hp figure?

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Me - 2400 lbs / 380 hp

I will take the 100 lbs vs 10 hp . . . 50 is my hmmm point. You?
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post Sep 25 2006, 10:29 PM
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Well I'm only about 25lbs away from my race minimum.
I'm currently at 1837 with metal hoods and doors.

so I'd have to take the 10hp in this case.
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post Sep 25 2006, 10:34 PM
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At the moment I am more intersted in more of a aero advantage. So can I take less wind resistance?
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post Sep 25 2006, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(So.Cal.914 @ Sep 25 2006, 07:58 PM) *

50 hp is a 50 percent increase for alot of people here and even more than that for others.



yep, that would be me....little old 1.8...I'd take the 50 hp increase
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post Sep 25 2006, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(turboman808 @ Sep 25 2006, 09:34 PM) *

At the moment I am more intersted in more of a aero advantage. So can I take less wind resistance?



There are a few tricks for that.
my race shop picked up 10mph on the vegal oval with aero tricks.
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post Sep 25 2006, 10:40 PM
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There are a few tricks for that.
my race shop picked up 10mph on the vegal oval with aero tricks.


Yeah I'm working on it. Reminds me I need to order parts.


Removing the rear valance and banana muffler seems to have helped.
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post Sep 25 2006, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(MW 914 @ Sep 25 2006, 09:19 PM) *

QUOTE(brant @ Sep 25 2006, 09:08 PM) *

The common figure thrown arround is that 100 lbs equals about 10hp.

so let me ask you a question; would you rather choose the 100lbs or the 10hp figure?

brant

Assuming it is less than $40 per pound, right? Or whatever your ratio is! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)


It was really great to see you again in moab this year.
your car is awesome.. congrats!

once limited by the rules of a race class.
each horse power can cost more than the $50/unit that the weight costs.

alot of vintage 911 guys would give anything to only spend $500 for 10horse.
and The really serious California vintage guys usually end up spending somewhere around $10K - 15K for motors that are around 50horse stronger than stock.

so at that rate the hp can cost as much as $300/hp
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