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Lets talk BIG front brakes., Need your wisdom and experience. |
JPB |
Oct 18 2006, 04:24 PM
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The Crimson Rocket smiles in your general direction. Group: Members Posts: 2,927 Joined: 12-November 05 From: Tapmahamock, Va. Member No.: 5,107 |
I have BMW 320i front breaks and was wondering if they bolt straight to the back break location. If I wanted to remove my Pvalve and use Eric's T, is there a front break that can handle the setup as mentioned. What would be a close second, with an after market adjustable Pvalve, if the rears hava to a mucha MMMMMMMACHIZMOoooo!
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brant |
Oct 18 2006, 04:30 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,639 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
tough Break....
ha... made myself laugh. big brakes are mostly extra weight. if you don't have big HP then you don't need big brakes. the racers will tell you; "all they do it make you slower" brant |
jhadler |
Oct 18 2006, 04:32 PM
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Long term tinkerer... Group: Members Posts: 1,879 Joined: 7-April 03 From: Lyons, CO Member No.: 529 |
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Brant beat me to it... The question is "why do you need BIG brakes?". Unless you've got big power, and are running hard at a track, big brakes do little more than add weight. -Josh2 |
JPB |
Oct 18 2006, 04:42 PM
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The Crimson Rocket smiles in your general direction. Group: Members Posts: 2,927 Joined: 12-November 05 From: Tapmahamock, Va. Member No.: 5,107 |
You fellas don't miss a freeking detail, I love it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) Lets just say, big engine on the way, if I win this ebay thing I'm on right now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)
Just to share, I just found a three foot black snake in my bedroom like three minutes ago. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) He came from the hole from under the floor. Little bastid must be looking for a place to hybernate. Didn't jump on him since I didn't know if it was a coperhead until I switched the light on. Not good; specialy with the girls. |
Brad Roberts |
Oct 18 2006, 04:54 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
I helped you out a little bit..
I changed the title of your post. I didnt want people to think you could'nt speel. Look for 6 piston Cayenne Turbo Calipers. They use the same pad as a 6 piston GT3 street car, but the caliper costs HALF what the GT3 caliper costs. It mounts just a tad different, but that doesnt matter, you'll need custom mounting anyway. B |
JPB |
Oct 18 2006, 05:06 PM
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The Crimson Rocket smiles in your general direction. Group: Members Posts: 2,927 Joined: 12-November 05 From: Tapmahamock, Va. Member No.: 5,107 |
Thanks for the help with the not being able to spell thing being that I'm really not able tooo spell.LOL
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) Cool info and wondered if it would all be cool with no booster and such. I don't know much about them setups. Way cool info by the way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) |
Brad Roberts |
Oct 18 2006, 05:33 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Oh.. dont worry.. it will take both of your feet and the passengers feet to get it to stop..LOL
Honestly.. a 23mm would work fine. B |
JPB |
Oct 18 2006, 05:40 PM
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The Crimson Rocket smiles in your general direction. Group: Members Posts: 2,927 Joined: 12-November 05 From: Tapmahamock, Va. Member No.: 5,107 |
Thanks and will look into it ASAP. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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davep |
Oct 18 2006, 05:53 PM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,152 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
Up to 250 HP with 911S brakes are fine. That is all the GT's used, and pretty much everything bigger just costs more. Might even slow you down also. However, if you are into the bling factor, just spend cubic dollars until you break.
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Jeroen |
Oct 18 2006, 06:09 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
Look for 6 piston Cayenne Turbo Calipers. They use the same pad as a 6 piston GT3 street car, but the caliper costs HALF what the GT3 caliper costs what you gonna do with brakes that big on a 914 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
JPB |
Oct 18 2006, 06:12 PM
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The Crimson Rocket smiles in your general direction. Group: Members Posts: 2,927 Joined: 12-November 05 From: Tapmahamock, Va. Member No.: 5,107 |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) I might not be the fastest from 0-60 but 60->0 look out!
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JPB |
Oct 18 2006, 06:14 PM
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The Crimson Rocket smiles in your general direction. Group: Members Posts: 2,927 Joined: 12-November 05 From: Tapmahamock, Va. Member No.: 5,107 |
Up to 250 HP with 911S brakes are fine. That is all the GT's used, and pretty much everything bigger just costs more. Might even slow you down also. However, if you are into the bling factor, just spend cubic dollars until you break. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Cubic $$$ first until she don't strop fast enough. I have 320s, SS break lines and 19mm MC and still isen't that impresive but stops alot faster than stock at like 75MPH. Schmit, stock was just down right scary at first. |
Eric_Shea |
Oct 18 2006, 06:39 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE I have 320s, SS break lines and 19mm MC and still isen't that impresive but stops alot faster than stock at like 75MPH. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Hmmmmmmmm, how so? If stock brakes can lock up the tires can someone explain how BMW brakes will stop it any faster with the same tires? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
Allan |
Oct 18 2006, 06:44 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
I just found a three foot black snake in my bedroom like three minutes ago. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) He came from the hole from under the floor. Live in the country do we? |
JPB |
Oct 18 2006, 06:48 PM
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The Crimson Rocket smiles in your general direction. Group: Members Posts: 2,927 Joined: 12-November 05 From: Tapmahamock, Va. Member No.: 5,107 |
I would never dought you sir and hell, I never pushed them hard enough to locked them up!LOL On stock tires! LOL I never pushed hard enough? I like push until it fells kinds spongy and then hard and then stop pushing. Did I woos out on my foot preasure? Was I a manjina?
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JPB |
Oct 18 2006, 06:54 PM
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The Crimson Rocket smiles in your general direction. Group: Members Posts: 2,927 Joined: 12-November 05 From: Tapmahamock, Va. Member No.: 5,107 |
I just found a three foot black snake in my bedroom like three minutes ago. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) He came from the hole from under the floor. Live in the country do we? Yes and it's quiet and peaceful. I have mice in the fall/winter, lizards in the summer and now snakes before the cold weather. Last year, a friend stayed over and had the doors open as he slepped peacefully before I got home late one evening. When I went into the bathroom, there was a drowned opposum in the toilet. :beer1:Lots of protein in these parts. |
So.Cal.914 |
Oct 18 2006, 06:54 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
If giant, mondo, stop the earth's rotation, Boing 707 disc brakes float your boat
than get them. I got the deal of a lifetime on Wilwood superlites(F) and 911T® Calipers( Thanks Chris Julian), if this deal had not come about I would have been content with stock binders. But sence they did..... The Superlites are lighter than the stock cali's, how would that slow me down? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
JPB |
Oct 18 2006, 06:57 PM
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The Crimson Rocket smiles in your general direction. Group: Members Posts: 2,927 Joined: 12-November 05 From: Tapmahamock, Va. Member No.: 5,107 |
Correct! They would only slow you down if you used them.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) Those callipers were a sweet score (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) |
alpha434 |
Oct 18 2006, 07:06 PM
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My member number is no coincidence. Group: Members Posts: 3,154 Joined: 16-December 05 From: Denver, CO Member No.: 5,280 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Brant's only half right. Big horsepower isn't it.
If you can lock up your brakes with a stock setup, then your brakes are defeating the integral friction between the tires and the road. Bigger brakes don't help because they do the same. Get bigger tires. Then you may not be able to lock 'em up anymore. THEN get bigger brakes. To get your stopping distance to a minimum, run the biggest goddamn tires you can pack in there, and get the SMALLEST brakes that you can lock up with. Remember that unsprung weight affects your tire-to-road stickiness. So lighter wheels too. Certain aero devices can assist. Meanwhile. Putting the big tires and aero devices on affect your acceleration and top speed too. So then you need the big horsepower. What it comes down to is that you'll have to compromise. And make very informed decisions. |
Eric_Shea |
Oct 18 2006, 07:08 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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