 Installing Front Swaybar, Do I weld in the inner brackets or not?? |
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| rhcb914 |
 Apr 7 2007, 10:34 AM
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So I have drilled the holes and cut the slot but I don't see any reference to welding in the brackets in the pelican tech article. Should I weld them in or just tighten the bolts and not worry?
-Rob |
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| davep |
Apr 7 2007, 10:37 AM
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The brackets have to be welded to the body. There are a lot of references to this in previous threads. A poor job will result in the brackets being torn out of the body.
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| So.Cal.914 |
Apr 7 2007, 10:37 AM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
It's a good idea, that way if you need to change parts you do not have to pull the
tank to do it. My .02 |
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| rhcb914 |
Apr 7 2007, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(davep @ Apr 7 2007, 12:37 PM)  The brackets have to be welded to the body. There are a lot of references to this in previous threads. A poor job will result in the brackets being torn out of the body. I have seen that some folks have welded them in but I wasn't sure if that was optional or not. I thought the brackets being torn out was a problem if you use the cheap U-bolts that doesn't require the removal of the gas tank. If that is a problem with the triangular brackets too looks like I'll weld them in. QUOTE(So.Cal.914 @ Apr 7 2007, 12:37 PM) The brackets have to be welded to the body. There are a lot of references to this in previous threads. A poor job will result in the brackets being torn out of the body. Good point. I probably won't take it out but if I have to for some reason that would be a real pain to remove the tank again. Thanks! |
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| Dave_Darling |
Apr 7 2007, 06:55 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California 
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Welding the brackets in is optional. Without the welding, they still result in a stronger structure than the U-bolt setup. But welding them in will make everything stronger, and will allow you to change bushings or remove the bar without going back in and pulling the tank.
So, "optional, but recommended". --DD |
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| hwgunner |
Apr 7 2007, 10:52 PM
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I actually spoke to some one who makes these nut plates and he did not recomend welding them in unless you know what you are doing. His concern was that a poor welding job would result in very thin sheetmetal at the edges which would be weaker than just bolting them in. Makes sense to me.
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| orange914 |
Apr 7 2007, 11:01 PM
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http://5starmediaworks.com/index.html Group: Members Posts: 3,371 Joined: 26-March 05 From: Ceres, California Member No.: 3,818 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(hwgunner @ Apr 7 2007, 09:52 PM) I actually spoke to some one who makes these nut plates and he did not recomend welding them in unless you know what you are doing. His concern was that a poor welding job would result in very thin sheetmetal at the edges which would be weaker than just bolting them in. Makes sense to me. eek! i have the tank out to do fuel lines/f.p. relocate AND was planing to install stock bar. i hadnt heard of the need to weld before. was the factory installed welded? i agree w/ dave darling if not welded by experianced welder it could compramise the sheet metal anyway. maybe spot welding the bolt heads to the inner plate would be a good idea as you could r&r bushings from inner fenders later (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) . |
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| So.Cal.914 |
Apr 7 2007, 11:40 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
I am sure you can find someone competent to weld it for you, or get a mobil
welder to come out and do it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) |
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| r_towle |
Apr 8 2007, 09:11 AM
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I have the brackets bolted in, no welding.
They have lasted 6 years of regular autox abuse. I got the big bar, 22mm and its fine. Use locktite, and tighten everything up at least once per year. Rich |
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| Dave_Darling |
Apr 8 2007, 11:33 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California
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"Nutting-and-bolting" the mounting plates annually is probably one of the things that has kept yours in good shape. Even if you don't, the plates do seem to hold up pretty well without welding. Welding them in, however, adds more strength (when done correctly).
The stock setup simply has three nuts welded to the inside of the fender, and the retaining bolts thread into those. --DD |
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