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The last 6, 2.7? |
Downunderman |
Apr 18 2007, 01:23 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 852 Joined: 31-May 03 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 766 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand |
It was suggested to me yesterday that a production 6 at the end of the run, possibly the last was delivered witha 2.7 motor. Any clues? Gustl must know. It may overcome an eligibility issue down here if true.
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Aaron Cox |
Apr 18 2007, 01:26 AM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
flared, late bumpers (75 or 76), and 5 lug from what i remember. was custom built for a friend of the family....
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Gustl |
Apr 18 2007, 04:43 AM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,525 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
I wouldn't call the '75-body model a production 6 - it's a one-off
AFAIK "one of the last" ones was the only 914-6 that left the factory with a 2.7 RS engine (I'm talking of street cars without 916) it's 914.2.43.0259 which also had the M471 option Attached image(s) |
Downunderman |
Apr 18 2007, 05:15 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 852 Joined: 31-May 03 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 766 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand |
Thanks Gustl. I thought you would know. Cheers. H
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914Sixer |
Apr 18 2007, 10:25 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,906 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I thought the Doctor had the last 914-6 that was made in 72. It was turned into a production mule for testing the last years of its life before showing up the US. I remember reading the story in Excellence in the 90's. Am I wrong?
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Justinp71 |
Apr 18 2007, 10:46 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,584 Joined: 11-October 04 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 2,922 Region Association: None |
I wouldn't call the '75-body model a production 6 - it's a one-off AFAIK "one of the last" ones was the only 914-6 that left the factory with a 2.7 RS engine (I'm talking of street cars without 916) it's 914.2.43.0259 which also had the M471 option That is a sweet car.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) |
davep |
Apr 18 2007, 11:25 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,154 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
I thought the Doctor had the last 914-6 that was made in 72. It was turned into a production mule for testing the last years of its life before showing up the US. I remember reading the story in Excellence in the 90's. Am I wrong? George may want to respond to this, and I think he may have already done so in another thread. However, the car he claims as the last 914/6 is # 0240, and we know for a fact that #0260 was built. For a long time the literature stated that #0240 was the last one built, and we do not know how this 'fact' came about. Much the same is true for the 914/4, stating that #04075 was the last when we have a member here with # 04099 and other literature stating 04100 was the last. There are also suspicions that the VINs start at 0011 for all 914/6 not just the 916, and the same may be true of the 914/4. If so, this would knock 100 cars out of the total production. Also, a friend had a 550 Spyder with a VIN one past the normally accepted range. I suspect the factory was just sloppy with the numbers. |
SirAndy |
Apr 18 2007, 11:30 AM
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I thought the Doctor had the last 914-6 that was made in 72. It was turned into a production mule for testing the last years of its life before showing up the US. I remember reading the story in Excellence in the 90's. Am I wrong? George may want to respond to this, and I think he may have already done so in another thread. However, the car he claims as the last 914/6 is # 0240, and we know for a fact that #0260 was built. For a long time the literature stated that #0240 was the last one built, and we do not know how this 'fact' came about. Much the same is true for the 914/4, stating that #04075 was the last when we have a member here with # 04099 and other literature stating 04100 was the last. There are also suspicions that the VINs start at 0011 for all 914/6 not just the 916, and the same may be true of the 914/4. If so, this would knock 100 cars out of the total production. Also, a friend had a 550 Spyder with a VIN one past the normally accepted range. I suspect the factory was just sloppy with the numbers. also keep in mind that the last VIN does not have to mean that it was the last car build. porsche was also notorious for putting out cars in different order than their VIN number would indicate. it's quite possible that there were at least two "latest /6" cars, one that was actually build the last and one that has the last production VIN ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Andy |
McMark |
Apr 18 2007, 12:40 PM
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Porsche gets a train full of 914 shells and they're not going to sort them out by VIN number. They grab the first one they find and start building. |
brer |
Apr 18 2007, 12:57 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,555 Joined: 10-March 05 From: san diego Member No.: 3,736 Region Association: None |
so where and when were the numbers stamped into the chassis?
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r_towle |
Apr 18 2007, 01:01 PM
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Thanks Gustl. I thought you would know. Cheers. H Question, does this car being built give you a valid arguement that may allow you to build another car, with the same options, and race it in a "stock" class? At least in a class that allows only the factory available options for that year?? Rich |
Gustl |
Apr 18 2007, 02:04 PM
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At least in a class that allows only the factory available options for that year?? I don't know anything about race classes, but this was definitely no factory available option this was special built on demand (I'm talking about the engine) at these days you could get almost everything from Porsche, when you had the money - and it was possible there is a rumor of a MY'70 M471 ... long befor it was officially for sale a guy brought the money and Porsche built it (remember: rumor) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif) Gustl |
Downunderman |
Apr 18 2007, 03:03 PM
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In classic rallies for this year on there is a maximun capacity increase of 17% (strange number don't know where it came from) but since digging around I have established that a 916 prototype was built narrow body with a 2.2 (there is some divergence of opinion on whether this was the prototype - this is the Freisinger car) and now this car factory delivered with a 2.7. It probably means I can continue to use my 2.7 motor, as it appears to have been an "option". Otherwise I can have 1.991 + 17% or 2.2 +17% which are way less than 2.7. Alternativly, go 916 replica with the 2.7 which I don't want to do. I like the car narrow.
I suppose I should ask the question: did the factory ever produce a narrow body 2.7? How can I verify that 914.2.43.0259 came with a 2.7? |
Gustl |
Apr 18 2007, 04:11 PM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,525 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
... but since digging around I have established that a 916 prototype was built narrow body with a 2.2 (there is some divergence of opinion on whether this was the prototype - this is the Freisinger car) the Freisinger car is definitely NOT the 916 prototype car! 916 prototype = 914.1.43.0195 Freisinger's car = 914.0.43.0376 => this one was a factory test car for chassis stiffness, therefore it had a steel roof (like the 916s), a 2.2 S engine and the standard narrow body other interesting detail: it has a movable steering column I suppose I should ask the question: did the factory ever produce a narrow body 2.7? no one that I would know - but they built 2 narrow body 3.0 ... well, 8-Zyl (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) How can I verify that 914.2.43.0259 came with a 2.7? I have this info from the Porsche 914-6 Club in Germany - they have some members that worked as engineers at Porsche in these days (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif) Gustl |
woobn8r |
Apr 19 2007, 09:19 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 607 Joined: 7-January 07 From: Newmarket, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 7,435 Region Association: None |
Thanks Gustl. I thought you would know. Cheers. H Question, does this car being built give you a valid arguement that may allow you to build another car, with the same options, and race it in a "stock" class? At least in a class that allows only the factory available options for that year?? Rich I believe this to be a valid argument. If it left the factory that way and was documented, there is no reason you should not be allowed to "clone" it for classification purposes. If you were not allowed this would give an advantage to the person that theoretically could show up with that car. |
RSWannabe |
Apr 19 2007, 10:38 PM
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Don't know about a 2.7, but I know a guy who bought his 914-6 new off the lot (still owns it too) and drove it for years. When he tore it down to upgrade the motor's performance he found it was actually a 2.2 T motor, and not a 2.0. So no great leap of the imagination that the factory might have slipped a 2.7 into a late six if they didn't have a 2.0 handy on a certain day.
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