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| SGB |
  Oct 17 2007, 09:03 AM
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just visiting  Group: Members Posts: 4,086 Joined: 8-March 03 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 404 Region Association: South East States  |
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^ American Petroleum Institute to old car owners EMERGENCY EMERGENCY We are being abandoned by the API! There is a new motor oil standard called "SM" that only hit the shelves within the past few months. DON'T USE IT! It has reduced ZPPD (zinc and phosphates) and will NOT provide adequate conditions for flat tappets. (bring on those rollers, Jake!) Read all about it here pelican 911 thread Charles Navarro has done the homework for us. It has been discussed a few times before, but I missed it a previous oil thread Guess I was niave, I thought oil had to be slippery and clean. It is more of a consumable than I realized because the various additives get USED UP. There is no kicking the ZPPD habit. We gotta have it. I've already put more miles on this SM grade oil than I should have. I hope it isn't too late. If nothing else, get some of one of the additives mentioned and fortify that oil. I;m going to the Amsoil Harley MC oil because I can get it TODAY. |
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| thomasotten |
Oct 17 2007, 10:01 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,546 Joined: 16-November 03 From: San Antonio, Texas Member No.: 1,349 |
Get some Brad Penn oil. We should buy in to it.
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| rhodyguy |
Oct 17 2007, 10:43 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,084 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
i did a search this am for retailers local to me. there is one in snohomish. placed a call and left a message on pricing and what the quantity minimum is for a better price. they have break in and and the 20-50. i'll post another thread with the details.
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| SLITS |
Oct 17 2007, 12:12 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None  |
Diesel truck oil ......
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| SGB |
Oct 17 2007, 01:42 PM
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just visiting Group: Members Posts: 4,086 Joined: 8-March 03 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 404 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(SLITS @ Oct 17 2007, 01:12 PM)  Diesel truck oil ...... shell rotella (thats for diesel ain't it?) changed too. There are several alternatives, as long as it isn't the dreaded SM |
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| SGB |
Oct 17 2007, 11:07 PM
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just visiting Group: Members Posts: 4,086 Joined: 8-March 03 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 404 Region Association: South East States |
out with the old and in with the new. all done. ahhh...
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| SLITS |
Oct 18 2007, 12:38 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(SGB @ Oct 17 2007, 12:42 PM) QUOTE(SLITS @ Oct 17 2007, 01:12 PM) Diesel truck oil ...... shell rotella (thats for diesel ain't it?) changed too. There are several alternatives, as long as it isn't the dreaded SM Delo 400 |
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| Jake Raby |
Oct 18 2007, 12:52 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
All the above Diesel oils available over the counter have already changed, or will be changed very soon. Charles is continuing oil sample gathering on a routine basis to see what changes and how.
If it's an over the counter "non race" oil it is only a matter of time before it'll be virtually worthless if it isn't already. Buy Brad Penn and be done with it. |
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| Porsche Rescue |
Oct 19 2007, 10:49 AM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
I talked with a knowlegable guy at the local Chevron distributor. He said Delo 400 has a bit more of the right stuff than the new 400LE but is being phased out (it is also rated SM). At this time he has it only in 5 gal cans. I think Brad Penn is it. Just wish I could get it closer to home and save the shipping cost, which for me adds nearly 50% to the cost of a case of 12.
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