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On topic: Gas Prices, OPEC |
redshift |
Jan 16 2004, 07:50 AM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
Rediculous. Insane, uncalled for, nutty. $1.82 for pareeemium last night, I went numb, and forgot til just now...
$28 bucks a tank. My |
iiibdsiil |
Jan 16 2004, 07:59 AM
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Needs Door Locks Group: Members Posts: 605 Joined: 19-November 03 From: Tampa / Boca Raton, FL Member No.: 1,362 |
I'm seeing 1.93 for premium all over the place down here. Ranges for 1.83 - 1.99. No one really wants to break the $2.00 boundry around here.
- Brett Smith |
Mark Henry |
Jan 16 2004, 08:00 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
What are you whining about? Here it’s around $2.80/gal. for regular. (.70/L)
Premo is over $3.00!!! |
rhodyguy |
Jan 16 2004, 08:11 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,090 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
that's ok miles. WE'RE GOING TO MARS!!!
kevin |
redshift |
Jan 16 2004, 08:17 AM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
Kevin, you go to Mars.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Oh, pack a lunch, and take whatever spare change you find on the dresser, I'm broke. M |
Bruce Allert |
Jan 16 2004, 08:26 AM
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Hellions asleep Group: Members Posts: 3,289 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Eagle Creek, Orygun Member No.: 441 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I'm so glad (sounds like a song!) the "Beaver" takes reglar. What with a 60 gal. tank & 7 miles to the gallon... you do the math (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
............b |
redshift |
Jan 16 2004, 08:30 AM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
60x7 is... uh... 70,343.... OH MY GOD!
I am glad I at least have a good education, it's something I am going to need to get me through life. M |
crash914 |
Jan 16 2004, 10:22 AM
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its a mystery to me Group: Members Posts: 1,826 Joined: 17-March 03 From: Marriottsville, MD Member No.: 434 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I did check out prices in France this week...
In Paris, 1.08 euro per liter....with the exchange rate at about .86 per euro...thats $1.26 per liter or $4.75 per gallon......yikes!!! |
RON S. |
Jan 16 2004, 10:28 AM
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9140430841, FINALLY RUNNING Group: Members Posts: 1,212 Joined: 22-May 03 From: WALTERBORO,S.C. Member No.: 724 Region Association: South East States |
Everytime gas climbs,I smile as I fill the tank in my 3 banger
Geo. $10.00 per fillup & 500 miles per tank full. 320,000 miles and still hangin in there.Hey OPEC (IMG:style_emoticons/default/finger.gif) Ron |
fiid |
Jan 16 2004, 10:39 AM
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Turbo Megasquirted Subaru Member Group: Members Posts: 2,827 Joined: 7-April 03 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 530 Region Association: Northern California |
Get used to it. There's only a finite amount of oil - ultimately it's going to get a lot worse yet.
My next performance upgrade will most likely involve a fuel cell, or some kind of small nuclear device. |
Bleyseng |
Jan 16 2004, 10:50 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
yep, when I drove to Kohn from Amsterdamn this fall it cost over $100 in gas. Driving a POS Opal that get great gas mileage too.
Gas around $1.80 for premium here. Geoff I am still trying to figure out why my Ranger 3.0 gets only 13 mpg now. |
need4speed |
Jan 16 2004, 11:52 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 339 Joined: 11-April 03 From: Arroyo Grande, CA Member No.: 564 |
But I thought we stole Iraq's oil. What happened to all the Iraqi oil? Oh yeah, that's right, Halliburton thinks a fair price for gasoline is $2.65.
I'm gonna buy a diesel. They won't f*ck with the supply of diesel. |
Steve Thacker |
Jan 16 2004, 12:46 PM
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UMMMPH Yea Baby Yea ! UMMMPH Group: Members Posts: 1,089 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Pickerington, Ohio Member No.: 113 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
What I don't understand is why the price of gas on the left coast is more expensive? WTF?
Its the same darn gas! Is there something going on here that I don't see. You fellas out there pay three prices for the same darn thing we do here in the midwest (items). Me thinks someone is getting ripped off (calif consumers). |
Elliot_Cannon |
Jan 16 2004, 01:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,922 Joined: 26-March 03 From: Orange County Ca Member No.: 480 Region Association: None |
Hi,
Adjusted for inflation we pay about the same or less for gas than we did in the 1920s. Even at $2.00 a gal. it's still a bargain. We don't want to take advantage of the Iraqi oil because then it would look like we only went there for the oil and we all know that's not true. Right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Cheers, Elliot |
Elliot_Cannon |
Jan 16 2004, 01:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,922 Joined: 26-March 03 From: Orange County Ca Member No.: 480 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Steve Thacker @ Jan 16 2004, 10:46 AM) What I don't understand is why the price of gas on the left coast is more expensive? WTF? Its the same darn gas! Is there something going on here that I don't see. You fellas out there pay three prices for the same darn thing we do here in the midwest (items). Me thinks someone is getting ripped off (calif consumers). There are three reasons we pay more for gas on the left coast. No. 1 -- taxes. No. 2 -- taxes and the third reason we pay more for gas out here is -- you guessed it TAXES! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Cheers, Elliot |
Steve Thacker |
Jan 16 2004, 02:04 PM
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UMMMPH Yea Baby Yea ! UMMMPH Group: Members Posts: 1,089 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Pickerington, Ohio Member No.: 113 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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need4speed |
Jan 16 2004, 03:11 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 339 Joined: 11-April 03 From: Arroyo Grande, CA Member No.: 564 |
QUOTE(Steve Thacker @ Jan 16 2004, 10:46 AM) What I don't understand is why the price of gas on the left coast is more expensive? WTF? Its the same darn gas! Is there something going on here that I don't see. You fellas out there pay three prices for the same darn thing we do here in the midwest (items). Me thinks someone is getting ripped off (calif consumers). The problem is, it's NOT the same darn gas. At least that's the excuse the oil companys whine about. I drive past oil wells on my way to work. They pump the crap out of the ground here. In fact, I live near Pismo Beach - "Pismo" is a Chumash Indian word meaning: "black gooey crap the seeps up out of the ground". And I paid $1.86 for 87 octane gasoline today. Taxes, yeah, sure, I don't mind paying my fair share, as long as it's spent wisely and not scammed into somebody's pocket. Roads cost money. Schools cost money. Military costs money. But California environmental regs ask for special blends. The oil companies call them "botique" blends, because they don't want to do them, and they want to make everyone think that it's a big difficult deal to provide clean fuel, low sulfer-content, etc. So they try to make it sound like Californians are a bunch of pansy crybabies, because we don't like breathing sulfuric acid like they do in Houston - after all, we're just a bunch of transplanted spoiled rich liberal snow-birds. Not tough cowboys like they got in Texas. (Houston, by the way, is now smoggier than LA - because of these env. regs). So they use this as an excuse to jack up prices, while they work to get these laws backed-out. (it's on the Guvornator's agenda, by the way - I'm really glad I don't live in LA). Especially during times of supply-constraint, because having to provide two different kinds of gasoline taxes their storage and transport capacity. Personally - I'm willing to also pay the few extra cents for the cleaner gas, if it means my valves don't get crudded up as quickly, or my muffler doesn't rust as quickly, or the forests don't get burned away by acid rain, or my kids don't die of asthma at age 10. As long as it's not some scam to fund a new sound system for the oil company CEO's third jet. I mean, I'm a big boy, I'm a capitalist, and I understand supply and demand and free markets. I'm willing to pay extra for a quality product. But gouging is gouging. Diesel prices do fluctuate, but nothing like gasoline. They're not taxed as highly, there aren't as many regs for special blends (the blends are seasonal, and pretty much universal, as I understand), and if the big oil companies wanted to put the squeeze on consumers with diesel, nearly every other company would lobby against it, because they rely on diesel for transport of goods. I wouldn't like it if EVERYBODY switched to diesel, because it's another nasty pollution problem (fine-grained ash particles) - but one that can be solved with technology. (zeolite filters). VW makes a Diesel engine that gets 50 mpg on the highway in the Beetle, Golf, and Jetta. Unfortunately, in 2004, they're banned in California. |
Bleyseng |
Jan 16 2004, 04:32 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
When I visited Amsterdam, most of Moniques family cars other than the minis were diesel. Way cheaper to run, they said.
Geoff |
Hawktel |
Jan 16 2004, 05:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 818 Joined: 2-April 03 From: Ogden Utah Member No.: 506 |
Russian has a tremendous oil supplies. They think the stuff in siberia would account for over 50% of all the oil the world ever had.
Oil companies suck. Maybe someday I'll put a hydrogen Plant in my 914. |
cnavarro |
Jan 16 2004, 06:01 PM
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Cylinder Guru Group: Members Posts: 472 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Chicagoland! Member No.: 49 Region Association: None |
FYI they lifted the ban on diesel cars in CA. My parents almost bought a TDI a few months ago. Test drove it with them. If I needed another car, I would most definately think twice about getting a VW TDI.
Charles Navarro LN Engineering http://www.LNengineering.com Aircooled Precision Performance |
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