longer Intake manifold studs, can't find them at Raby's or PP |
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longer Intake manifold studs, can't find them at Raby's or PP |
VaccaRabite |
Apr 5 2008, 10:31 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,465 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I am looking for longer intake manifold studs.
If I use one of the thick intake gaskets, my current studs are not quite long enough to bolt on my carbs. Where can I find longer ones? I did not see them at Raby's or PP, and trying to search at AA right now is neigh impossible. My search is hampered as I don't actually know the dimensions of the stock studs. I guess the simpler solution would be to buy another set of thin intake gaskets. But I have a new set of the thick ones, and I understand that they are better to use. And, yes, I am aware that I am asking noob-tastic questions this evening. Zach |
degreeoff |
Apr 5 2008, 10:33 PM
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I like big butts and I can not lie! Group: Members Posts: 1,622 Joined: 9-February 03 From: Booowieeee MD (near DC) Member No.: 275 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
well you can call Richard @ PMO...he sold me a set for my 6...sorry dont have his # on hand
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Gint |
Apr 5 2008, 11:19 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,083 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I just got a set of 8 from Jake and they are exactly the same length as the studs I removed. And mine are too short also when using the stock gasket with the spacer.
So please let me know where you find a set. I'll be placing another order with Jake next week and I plan to ask then what he suggests I use for a gasket. I need new ones anyway and since he sold me a set the same length as what I believe are stock studs, I'm going to bet that he doesn't use a stock spaced gasket with carbs. We'll see... |
Dave_Darling |
Apr 6 2008, 12:35 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Won't plain M6x1.0 (thread) in an appropriate length work fine? You should be able to get that from a good large hardware store, or at least a big auto parts place. Failing that, Caterpillar Tractor carries lots of metric stuff...
No, I don't know what the appropriate length is; if you have stock studs measure them and add however much more length you think you need. --DD |
SGB |
Apr 6 2008, 12:37 AM
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just visiting Group: Members Posts: 4,086 Joined: 8-March 03 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 404 Region Association: South East States |
I recently got a set of "8X40" (mm I assume) from my favorite local air cooled VW place. They worked fine with spacers on the typical tall manifold.
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Gint |
Apr 6 2008, 12:39 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,083 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Won't plain M6x1.0 (thread) in an appropriate length work fine? Is that a question also or a statement? I don't know either. I can assume it would be fine, but then I have one already that won't come out, so I don't want to just stick any old piece of hardware in my head. Measuring is no sweat. I'm pretty sure they're 30mm. Edit: They are 40mm as I indicated in my next post. And they're 8x1.25 not 6x1.00. This post has been edited by Gint: Apr 6 2008, 12:49 AM |
Gint |
Apr 6 2008, 12:47 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,083 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I recently got a set of "8X40" (mm I assume) from my favorite local air cooled VW place. They worked fine with spacers on the typical tall manifold. |
MrKona |
Apr 6 2008, 01:41 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 597 Joined: 25-July 05 From: Santa Rosa, CA Member No.: 4,469 Region Association: None |
There's always McMaster-Carr if you can't find the correct studs locally...
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sww914 |
Apr 6 2008, 01:42 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,439 Joined: 4-June 06 Member No.: 6,146 Region Association: None |
I've bought 8mm X 1.25mm studs of many different lengths at the hardware store plenty of times for both intake and exhaust without a single failure. The metric stuff is all hardened to about grade 5 or grade 8 depending on which thread pitch it is, it's not soft like the SAE grade 3 crap.
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URY914 |
Apr 6 2008, 08:02 AM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 121,038 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Go to a real nut and bolt supplier (not Ace Hardware) and get some threaded rod and cut them to any length you need. Simple.
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KaptKaos |
Apr 6 2008, 08:53 AM
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Family Group: Members Posts: 4,009 Joined: 23-April 03 From: Near Wausau Member No.: 607 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I recently had to replace an exhaust stud. Local bug shop had an assortment of studs to choose from. I got some 9mm and 10mm step-down studs to replace the one that was stripped. I don't know if they are the same for the intake side, but it might be worth a look.
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rhodyguy |
Apr 6 2008, 09:19 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,092 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
i'm confused. with phenolic gaskets and cb tall manifolds, the stock intake studs work just fine for me. are you guys trying to use cut washers under the nuts?
k |
VaccaRabite |
Apr 6 2008, 09:48 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,465 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I ended up buying a 1 meter all thread rod from McMaster-Carr. No one around here had it. I'll cut my studs from that, and have enough left over to make more if I need them.
Zach |
VaccaRabite |
Apr 6 2008, 09:52 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,465 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
i'm confused. with phenolic gaskets and cb tall manifolds, the stock intake studs work just fine for me. are you guys trying to use cut washers under the nuts? k Yes. But even if I was not trying to use a washer, there is not quite enough stud there to put a nut on and expect it to stay. Zach |
Dave_Darling |
Apr 6 2008, 01:03 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
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root |
Apr 6 2008, 03:00 PM
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Two Wheeled Type4 Completed! Group: Members Posts: 849 Joined: 5-May 04 From: Sterling, VA Member No.: 2,026 Region Association: None |
And they're 8x1.25 not 6x1.00. M8? Really? I could swear that they took a 10mm wrench, not a 13! (This is the intake, I mean.) But you have checked, so my memory must be wrong. Rats, early-onset Alzheimer's.... --DD You guys got me curious as I'm getting ready to beef up my 2.0L heads for my typeIV two wheeler engine. I just measured the exhaust and intake studs they are the same 6mm X 1.25. So maybe the 6 cylinder head studs are larger like 8mm... eh? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
alpha434 |
Apr 6 2008, 04:27 PM
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My member number is no coincidence. Group: Members Posts: 3,154 Joined: 16-December 05 From: Denver, CO Member No.: 5,280 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Ginter,
If you're concerned about getting another stud stuck in there, maybe you should pursue stainless steel studs. There is an aerospace fastener supplier about 3rd going NB on santa fe. You can see the building when taking the light rail. They have what you need. EDIT: 6x1.00, Root? 6x1.25 isn't a standard thread pitch. The other choices are 8x1.00, 8.1.25, and I guess 5x0.80 |
sww914 |
Apr 6 2008, 05:31 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,439 Joined: 4-June 06 Member No.: 6,146 Region Association: None |
Evidence- 8mm, standard 1.25 threads.
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sww914 |
Apr 6 2008, 05:32 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,439 Joined: 4-June 06 Member No.: 6,146 Region Association: None |
more, a 6cyl head.
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Jake Raby |
Apr 6 2008, 09:40 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Yes, we have these.. I doubt they are on the store, But email rebecca at parts@aircooledtechnology.com and she'll hook you up.
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