 OT: What's a 911 worth?, '70 no sunroof with 915 and MFI |
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| zymurgist |
 Apr 10 2008, 10:57 AM
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"Ace" Mechanic  Group: Members Posts: 7,411 Joined: 9-June 05 From: Hagerstown, MD Member No.: 4,238 Region Association: None  |
I was just over in the classified section checking out Headrage's sweet sweet /6 .
That got me thinking that I really need a teener more than I need a 911. I'm wondering what the best way to come up with a value for the 911 is... basically almost all of the work on that car (for better or worse) was done by the PO, and I have just been driving and maintaining it. Does anyone have any useful ideas for determining what a fair market value for this car is? |
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| Rav914 |
Apr 10 2008, 11:10 AM
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All-weather fan Group: Members Posts: 738 Joined: 15-April 07 From: WA Member No.: 7,669 Region Association: None |
The best bet would be to visit two sites: Pelican Parts, and Early 911S Registry.
There's a Marketplace forum at Pelican and the General Info forum on Early S will suffice. With MFI the guys on Early S will be all over it. Good luck, Hope you get $20K + |
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| zymurgist |
Apr 10 2008, 11:26 AM
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"Ace" Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 7,411 Joined: 9-June 05 From: Hagerstown, MD Member No.: 4,238 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Rav914 @ Apr 10 2008, 01:10 PM)  The best bet would be to visit two sites: Pelican Parts, and Early 911S Registry. There's a Marketplace forum at Pelican and the General Info forum on Early S will suffice. With MFI the guys on Early S will be all over it. Good luck, Hope you get $20K + Whoa, really? The MFI is not original to the car, the car is actually a 911T... the PO did all the mechanical work. It's a 2.4 with an honest 190 hp at the wheels (have dyno sheets to prove it). |
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| ericread |
Apr 10 2008, 11:34 AM
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The Viper Blue 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California |
With the MFI not being original and all, I'll give you $800 CASH for it right now - sight unseen!!!
Now that's a deal. Heck, I'll even pay for shipping to Cali myself! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| degreeoff |
Apr 10 2008, 11:40 AM
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I like big butts and I can not lie! Group: Members Posts: 1,622 Joined: 9-February 03 From: Booowieeee MD (near DC) Member No.: 275 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
wish I were a little more lucrative..I'd be all over that!
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| jtf914 |
Apr 10 2008, 12:16 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 428 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Burlington, CT Member No.: 58 Region Association: North East States |
The MFI is probably original to your 2.4 engine, 72 T's came with MFI. The 915 is a nice upgrade as well, I think the 1970 911's came with the 901. Good Luck.
-Justin |
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| SLITS |
Apr 10 2008, 12:28 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None  |
'70-'71 had the 901- 2 years only ... very desireable ... clutch & throwout bearing are $800+ dollars.
MFI pump, stacks, throttle bodies worth more than most 914s. Pump can be recalibrated (expensive) for "E" and "S" engines. Porsche ran this stuff on the race cars .. injection is timed off the cams for postive squirt. Junk the car and put the drivetrain / front suspension in a 914 where it really belongs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Oh, the '70 should have been a 2.2L AFAIR .... have an "E" in the shop (Glenn Sagers' car) |
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| zymurgist |
Apr 10 2008, 01:16 PM
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"Ace" Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 7,411 Joined: 9-June 05 From: Hagerstown, MD Member No.: 4,238 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(SLITS @ Apr 10 2008, 02:28 PM) MFI pump, stacks, throttle bodies worth more than most 914s. Pump can be recalibrated (expensive) for "E" and "S" engines. The PO recalibrated the MFI pump for this engine because of the displacement (it's a cheater). QUOTE Junk the car and put the drivetrain / front suspension in a 914 where it really belongs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Well, the thought has crossed my mind. There's an Olympic Blue 1.7 on a used car lot a couple of miles from my house... hate the idea of taking this mostly sorted car apart, although it does have a few "WTF" items on it. QUOTE Oh, the '70 should have been a 2.2L AFAIR .... have an "E" in the shop (Glenn Sagers' car) You are correct sir! The '70 came with the 2.2... but the PO built up a 2.4 engine for this car. It's been a while since I talked to him but I think it has "S" cams. Definitely has Carrera tensioners. |
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| zymurgist |
Apr 10 2008, 01:17 PM
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"Ace" Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 7,411 Joined: 9-June 05 From: Hagerstown, MD Member No.: 4,238 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Justin Fischer @ Apr 10 2008, 02:16 PM) The 915 is a nice upgrade as well, I think the 1970 911's came with the 901. If I remember correctly, the 915 came from an SC. It has an electronic speedometer gear (no speedo cable). |
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| SLITS |
Apr 10 2008, 01:22 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(zymurgist @ Apr 10 2008, 12:16 PM) QUOTE(SLITS @ Apr 10 2008, 02:28 PM) MFI pump, stacks, throttle bodies worth more than most 914s. Pump can be recalibrated (expensive) for "E" and "S" engines. The PO recalibrated the MFI pump for this engine because of the displacement (it's a cheater). QUOTE Junk the car and put the drivetrain / front suspension in a 914 where it really belongs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Well, the thought has crossed my mind. There's an Olympic Blue 1.7 on a used car lot a couple of miles from my house... hate the idea of taking this mostly sorted car apart, although it does have a few "WTF" items on it. QUOTE Oh, the '70 should have been a 2.2L AFAIR .... have an "E" in the shop (Glenn Sagers' car) You are correct sir! The '70 came with the 2.2... but the PO built up a 2.4 engine for this car. It's been a while since I talked to him but I think it has "S" cams. Definitely has Carrera tensioners. Nice effin' set-up ... jes jokin' about trashin' the car, though the engine package would make a nice movin' teener. It's the rest of the cost to put it in a teener that is intense. I'd love to have MFI, but I'm a CASOB and will stick with the CIS I have. |
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| zymurgist |
Apr 10 2008, 01:33 PM
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"Ace" Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 7,411 Joined: 9-June 05 From: Hagerstown, MD Member No.: 4,238 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(SLITS @ Apr 10 2008, 03:22 PM) Nice effin' set-up ... jes jokin' about trashin' the car, though the engine package would make a nice movin' teener. It's the rest of the cost to put it in a teener that is intense. Thanks! The PO was really proud of the engine... he built it himself, including the design work to recalibrate the MFI pump for optimum performance. It makes 190 horsepower at the wheels (I think, it's either 180 or 190, haven't pulled out the dyno sheets in some time) and it pulls right up to the redline. I'd want a completed (or mostly completed) 914 conversion rather than another project. I spent 3 years building the Corvette and I bought the 911 because I was sick of having no cool car to drive. Now that I have both on the road, they are a lot of fun, but I've been thinking about a 914 for a long time. As a matter of fact, if this particular 911 hadn't been available, I probably would have bought a 914. You know what started me on this kick this time? Dr.Evil's April Fool thread about selling his /6! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| davep |
Apr 10 2008, 02:23 PM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,158 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(SLITS @ Apr 10 2008, 10:28 AM) '70-'71 had the 901- 2 years only ... very desirable Would that not be the 911 transmission? 90x from 1965 through 1969, and 915 varieties from 1972. |
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| roadster fan |
Apr 10 2008, 02:26 PM
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Project Frankenstein !!!!!!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,009 Joined: 24-November 05 From: Aptos, CA Member No.: 5,184 Region Association: Northern California |
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| Rav914 |
Apr 10 2008, 02:40 PM
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All-weather fan Group: Members Posts: 738 Joined: 15-April 07 From: WA Member No.: 7,669 Region Association: None |
Yeah, an S-cam set up is huge especially when powered by MFI. If the PO used 2.2 S pistons in there, you've got 200hp+. Like I said the Early S crowd will be interested. Bear in mind, you'll need to go armed with specific stuff like engine numbers, The MFI pump number (many differences between the T, E, S, RS pumps), VIN, etc.
It sounds like a real nice car. If it's got original Recaro sport seats add a few more $$$$. Seriously, best of luck. Early 911's are much sought after. Then go and get that /6 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| PeeGreen 914 |
Apr 10 2008, 02:54 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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If everything you are talking about is true you are talking an engine that is worth over 15k alone. I know someone that would pay 7k just for the MFI. If your car is in nice condition as well I would think your car would easily go on ebay for 20-25k. The '70 body style is ver desirable right now.
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| dw914er |
Apr 10 2008, 08:03 PM
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Planning Cities Group: Members Posts: 2,364 Joined: 1-March 08 From: Yucaipa, CA Member No.: 8,763 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(Phoenix 914-6GT @ Apr 10 2008, 01:54 PM) If everything you are talking about is true you are talking an engine that is worth over 15k alone. I know someone that would pay 7k just for the MFI. If your car is in nice condition as well I would think your car would easily go on ebay for 20-25k. The '70 body style is ver desirable right now. phoenix is giving false hopes 500 bucks max for the whole thing is the most you'll get and i happen to have that in cash (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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| scotty b |
Apr 10 2008, 08:23 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
Intersetd in a trade ? I've got a killer VW bus. All the right stuff to go with it too! 180 horse turbo charged engine, your choice of manual or auto tranny. Nice comfy aftermarket bucket seats. Already has a hippie sticker on it for ya. Hell I could even fab up some keg holders for you Ken (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Maybe a portable brewery (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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| SLITS |
Apr 10 2008, 09:21 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
If you're makin' 190 at the rear wheels, the engine is puttin' out somewhere in the neighborhood of 220 - 240 I would guess.
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| ericread |
Apr 11 2008, 12:43 AM
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The Viper Blue 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(dw914er @ Apr 10 2008, 07:03 PM) QUOTE(Phoenix 914-6GT @ Apr 10 2008, 01:54 PM) If everything you are talking about is true you are talking an engine that is worth over 15k alone. I know someone that would pay 7k just for the MFI. If your car is in nice condition as well I would think your car would easily go on ebay for 20-25k. The '70 body style is ver desirable right now. phoenix is giving false hopes 500 bucks max for the whole thing is the most you'll get and i happen to have that in cash (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Wait a damn minute!!! I offered $800 hours ago. Either pony up with real money or get out of the game! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) |
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| Eric_Shea |
Apr 11 2008, 01:19 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,279 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
QUOTE Would that not be the 911 transmission? Yup. 911/02. $20k for a non-sunroof with A 2.4S motors should be doable. Good shape? Seemed like it based on the pics I've seen. |
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