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| jeff |
  Jan 21 2004, 10:00 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 255 Joined: 17-January 04 From: thousand oaks,ca Member No.: 1,570  |
Hello ,im new to your site but ive been reading it for a while and ill say you all seem like very nice people .Anyhow my question is that im doing a dry sump tank/oil cooler in the front trunk of my 914 does anyone have experience with the tank being so far away from the engine? This will be a street/timetrial type car .Is the stock oil pump good enough to overcome the friction loss of the lines and provide adequate oil supply to the engine?
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| SirAndy |
Jan 22 2004, 12:40 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 42,257 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
is it a 4 or a 6?
don't know much about 6es (or 4s <_< ) but you can get oil pumps for the T4 (stock location) that flow more oil. the sump is usually close to the engine and you run a thermostat that blocks off/opens the flow to the oil cooler depending on the temperature. Andy |
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| steve@ottosvenice.com |
Jan 22 2004, 12:54 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 214 Joined: 9-November 03 Member No.: 1,324 |
Why do you just buy a stock tank from us and do it the proper way. Steve
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| Hawktel |
 Jan 22 2004, 01:25 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 818 Joined: 2-April 03 From: Ogden Utah Member No.: 506 |
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| J P Stein |
Jan 22 2004, 03:38 AM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
You are right, we are all very nice.....except for that pig Zois. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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| john rogers |
Jan 22 2004, 09:34 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,525 Joined: 4-March 03 From: Chula Vista CA Member No.: 391 |
One who mounts the tank in the front is Jim Patrick (web site) and he seems to have no problems. On both my four and now the six the tank is close to the engine and the suction line on the six is only about 12 inches long. A typical dry sump system is a lot of time and $$$$ and to put one really right will require something like: External multi stage oil pump, braided lines to/from front cooler, oil tank, breather tank, external filter(s) and a sump suction for the engine. You may or may not want to use a thermostat since it does heat the oil quicker. For pumps look at Autocraft or Pauter, braided lines and adapters look at Racer Parts Wholesale, for oil tanks/breathers try Unique Metal Products and coolers try Earl's. The total cost is a shock. Good luck
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| mightyohm |
Jan 22 2004, 01:50 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,277 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 162 Region Association: Pacific Northwest  |
Don't most people run front mounted coolers? What about on 4's? Seems like you'd have similar problems as a front mounted oil tank.
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| SirAndy |
Jan 22 2004, 02:07 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 42,257 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(jkeyzer @ Jan 22 2004, 11:50 AM) Don't most people run front mounted coolers? What about on 4's? Seems like you'd have similar problems as a front mounted oil tank. yupp, front cooler and sump are two different things tho. the sump is supposed to prevent yer engine from starving of oil while you push it hard (yes, some people don't just drive in a straight line!). the front cooler is to, well, cool the oil. a front cooler should always be used with a thermostat to help the engine to get up to operating temp. i'm planning on adding a front cooler (even tho the engine doesn't run very hot yet) and use the right size lines to be able to go to a /6 later ... that'll add plenty of oil to the system. Andy |
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