Nice-looking 914-6 for sale, Do the VIN tags look funny to you |
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Nice-looking 914-6 for sale, Do the VIN tags look funny to you |
horizontally-opposed |
Sep 12 2008, 11:21 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
Nice looking car. But the price (!) and VIN seem a bit, uh, outta whack. Or am I?
http://www.cannillomotorsports.com/inventory/9146/9146.htm EDIT: I am, at least on the VIN. pete |
r_towle |
Sep 12 2008, 11:26 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,588 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
lower aluminum one has modern day rivets...looser.
The upper stamped on looks ok, just looks like they sanded around the area and painted it over... I would look underneath the stamped one to be sure...and look at all the welds on that inner fender panel to make sure its for real.. Overall, its a nice job, the seam sealer even looks factory. Rich |
SirAndy |
Sep 12 2008, 11:45 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,676 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
It's been repainted. That's why the lower VIN plate doesn't have the original rivets anymore and the fender VIN stamping is painted over ...
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Andy |
r_towle |
Sep 12 2008, 11:47 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,588 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
But there are sources for the original rivets.....should be replace with good ones...and the vin should not get painted, should it???
I know the vin on my /4's is not painted. Rich |
horizontally-opposed |
Sep 12 2008, 11:50 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
I was more focused on the way the numbers are crooked and outta whack.
Unfortunately, my 914 is apart for paint (and where can *I* get some of the correct rivets, while we're on that topic (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ), so I can't look at it. But Johnson's book depicts one where the numbers are straight.... pete |
Gustl |
Sep 12 2008, 12:18 PM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,523 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
this car was discussed in the Classifieds section recently ...
LINK (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Gustl |
IronHillRestorations |
Sep 12 2008, 12:20 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,729 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
It's been raced or autocrossed. I'm going to opine that the VIN on the inner fender has been "replicated", it doesn't look right to me. Maybe accident repair?
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Lavanaut |
Sep 12 2008, 01:11 PM
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Hungry Mind : Thirsty Gullet Group: Members Posts: 916 Joined: 20-June 06 From: Bend, OR Member No.: 6,265 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
It's been raced or autocrossed. Can you qualify that? I'm just curious what leads you to that conclusion... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
sixnotfour |
Sep 12 2008, 01:24 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,434 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Some sixes look perfect and some look like a drunk stamped them .
go to armandos for sale section and look at all the vins there , big variance. The four ones are stamped nicely in comparison |
dw914er |
Sep 12 2008, 01:29 PM
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Planning Cities Group: Members Posts: 2,364 Joined: 1-March 08 From: Yucaipa, CA Member No.: 8,763 Region Association: Southern California |
I noticed on the other thread/link about the sagging door panel. And people mentioned the restored factor on the car.
I like the car, and that color sure is gorgeous. But there are a few imperfections affecting its "perfect original" title. |
SirAndy |
Sep 12 2008, 01:35 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,676 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I was more focused on the way the numbers are crooked and outta whack. A lot of them do. They were handstamped, after all. I'm going to opine that the VIN on the inner fender has been "replicated", it doesn't look right to me. I don't think so. It's got the right "star" symbol (which is different from the /4 cars) and the font looks correct as well. My guess would be that the front trunk had a lot of scratched paint and that's why it was repainted. And yes, the VIN should *not* be painted over ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Andy PS: /4 VIN, just as crooked. Note the different "star" on the /4 cars ... Attached image(s) |
Lavanaut |
Sep 12 2008, 01:38 PM
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Hungry Mind : Thirsty Gullet Group: Members Posts: 916 Joined: 20-June 06 From: Bend, OR Member No.: 6,265 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I was told this car was fully repainted as part of the recent restoration.
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SirAndy |
Sep 12 2008, 01:44 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,676 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I was told this car was fully repainted as part of the recent restoration. The only reason why i didn't think it was a full repaint is that people usually paint over the black goo on the front shock towers on the /6 cars. Looks like they either masked those off or put something similar to the factory goo back on their afterwards. Too bad they didn't keep the sticker on the door jamb. I wonder what the black karmann plate looks like ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Andy |
Jasfsmith |
Sep 12 2008, 03:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 556 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Bangor, ME Member No.: 2,882 Region Association: North East States |
Too bad they didn't keep the sticker on the door jamb. I wonder what the black karmann plate looks like ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Andy I wouldn't expect to see the DOT sticker on the door jamb if it was originally delivered to Italy. For that made I wouldn't have expected to see front side markers or USA directional lenses front and rear. Still, a very nice looking car and will certainly go over $30k. |
johannes |
Sep 12 2008, 04:03 PM
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Club Porsche 914 France President Group: Members Posts: 3,084 Joined: 13-January 06 From: France Member No.: 5,409 Region Association: France |
Too bad they didn't keep the sticker on the door jamb. I wonder what the black karmann plate looks like ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Andy Me think, italian car ... no sticker |
SirAndy |
Sep 12 2008, 04:08 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,676 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Me think, italian car ... no sticker I dis-agree ... No import car will be able to get on the road here without the DOT approval. If properly imported, it *should* have a DOT sticker ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Andy |
Gustl |
Sep 12 2008, 04:30 PM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,523 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
... it was originally delivered to Italy. For that made I wouldn't have expected to see front side markers or USA directional lenses front and rear. the front side markers are correct for an original Italien car in Italy they worked as turn lights (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Gustl |
horizontally-opposed |
Sep 12 2008, 04:48 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
... it was originally delivered to Italy. For that made I wouldn't have expected to see front side markers or USA directional lenses front and rear. the front side markers are correct for an original Italien car in Italy they worked as turn lights (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Gustl Interesting to see the different VIN stampings... So it was side marker as turn signal + white upright light setup for the Italian cars? I always wondered why the ALL white light on Italian 914s while early 911s just got a bit more white in their white/amber front lenses... Thanks, pete |
sixerdon |
Sep 12 2008, 06:39 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 466 Joined: 23-May 03 From: Dartmouth, MA Member No.: 731 |
It would seem to me that the windshield VIN tag would be missing also on this car. Weren't they only for US cars?
All in all it looks good in the pictures, but it's needing a lot of little details to make it more complete, but I don't want to go that here. The prospective owner should do his/her homework on sixes and '71 914's in general,......be it an Italian car or US. I hope he gets what he wants for it. Makes my sixes look real good. Don |
mel reckling |
Sep 12 2008, 07:40 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 107 Joined: 28-November 07 From: north royalton, ohio Member No.: 8,385 |
It would seem to me that the windshield VIN tag would be missing also on this car. Weren't they only for US cars? All in all it looks good in the pictures, but it's needing a lot of little details to make it more complete, but I don't want to go that here. The prospective owner should do his/her homework on sixes and '71 914's in general,......be it an Italian car or US. I hope he gets what he wants for it. Makes my sixes look real good. Don I can't speak for all of them, but my 72(originally delivered to France) didn't have one, had to stamp one on a tin plate for my DOT clearance process along with side markers and some seat belt requirement. The DOT never gave me any kind of door sticker. |
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