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Everybodys favorite topic, not breasts but lifters |
F4i |
Feb 9 2004, 08:44 PM
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914 DOG! Group: Benefactors Posts: 482 Joined: 22-December 03 From: AB Canada Member No.: 1,460 |
Ok I have a virgin NOS stock cam for the teener. I bought it with a bunch of parts. With the parts came
these lifters. Are they new, reworked, f 'ed, or what? I cannot afford ceramic. So I have to decide what to do. I have never seen new lifters so I have no comparison. Any and all help opinions etc. appreciated. |
F4i |
Feb 9 2004, 09:38 PM
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914 DOG! Group: Benefactors Posts: 482 Joined: 22-December 03 From: AB Canada Member No.: 1,460 |
Must be monday. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Brad Roberts |
Feb 9 2004, 11:55 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
It's hard to say without holding them and seeing them. The tops appear to be ok. But that is PURE speculation.
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F4i |
Feb 10 2004, 12:00 AM
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914 DOG! Group: Benefactors Posts: 482 Joined: 22-December 03 From: AB Canada Member No.: 1,460 |
What do I look for? I assume any dishing would be a problem. Do new have the star pattern or is that the result of a re-work? Can old ones be reworked? Besides ceramic. what is out there for a stock new cam? As always thanks.
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Brad Roberts |
Feb 10 2004, 12:06 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
The lifter should actually have a slight crown to it if you place it on a piece of glass. Those appear to be reworked OE lifters (which is what our local guy's are doing without issue.)
We are either using re-worked stock ones or ceramic. We cant take the chance of failure. B |
F4i |
Feb 10 2004, 12:11 AM
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914 DOG! Group: Benefactors Posts: 482 Joined: 22-December 03 From: AB Canada Member No.: 1,460 |
Not many people can afford to have a failure. I know I can't. Thanks for the insight.
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Brad Roberts |
Feb 10 2004, 12:12 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Rumor has it the Brazilian lifters are working fine also, but they are a tad heavier than the stock ones (which is fine for a stockish engine).
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swood |
Feb 10 2004, 12:18 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,839 Joined: 6-February 03 From: Strong Beach Member No.: 251 Region Association: None |
ARRGGH!
This has been bothering me to no end particularly today. I finally decided that I can't afford to not afford the ceramics. I'm taking my Web lifters back and telling em to give me my dough back. I don't want to risk it. I'll just have to suck it up and buy the drop ins. And new pushrods. there goes 5 and 1/2 bills. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) |
F4i |
Feb 10 2004, 12:25 AM
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914 DOG! Group: Benefactors Posts: 482 Joined: 22-December 03 From: AB Canada Member No.: 1,460 |
Do the guys with the ceramic lifters provide the pushrods as well? I feel your pain. I bought a vw porsche for the cheap to run/build vw engine. So far not too bad but as of late it seems you can't use new parts. I just finished sorting out my dist. drive gear. According to Jake the new ones are not too good. It's just as bad as airplanes. Should be getting better but it's getting worse. ISO is a joke as well. Lowest bidder is the bottem line.
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swood |
Feb 10 2004, 12:28 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,839 Joined: 6-February 03 From: Strong Beach Member No.: 251 Region Association: None |
I think John@aircooled.net's HD AL or Chromoly PR's are the ticket, depending upon how wound up you get.
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ThinAir |
Feb 10 2004, 01:16 AM
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Best friends Group: Members Posts: 2,543 Joined: 4-February 03 From: Flagstaff, AZ Member No.: 231 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Feb 9 2004, 11:06 PM) Those appear to be reworked OE lifters (which is what our local guy's are doing without issue.) When I was cleaning up the carport on Saturday (to find back the engine stand so I can actually start my teardown) I found a bag with a set of lifters in it. I wouldn't reuse them as-is, but I was already wondering if they were worth anything for reconditioning. Can you "recycle" lifters - kinda like laser printer cartridges? |
Mark Henry |
Feb 10 2004, 10:12 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Dylan, I have the ceramic lifter buy in Canada going. It’s being pushed back to the end of February but it is a go. It would save you a couple of bucks and you don’t have to ship your case to the states, just Ontario.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act...ceramic+lifters That said if it is a true NOS cam and lifter set it may be OK. On checking the face of the lifter, just hold them face to face, hold them up to the light and they should be convex. |
ThinAir |
Feb 11 2004, 06:13 PM
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Best friends Group: Members Posts: 2,543 Joined: 4-February 03 From: Flagstaff, AZ Member No.: 231 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Bump.
Nobody answered my question about recycling lifters. I still wanna know. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon14.gif) |
Mark Henry |
Feb 11 2004, 06:35 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(ErnieDV @ Feb 11 2004, 04:13 PM) Bump. Nobody answered my question about recycling lifters. I still wanna know. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon14.gif) At this time I say NO! Ceramics or get all your stuff from John at aircooled.net (Web) if you get your cam, lifters and pump from him he will come good for these parts if they go south. |
ThinAir |
Feb 11 2004, 06:50 PM
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Best friends Group: Members Posts: 2,543 Joined: 4-February 03 From: Flagstaff, AZ Member No.: 231 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I don't want to reuse them myself. Brad said something about his customers using reconditioned lifters and I want to know if there is anyone who takes these things before I throw them away. I know I keep too much stuff because "I might need it someday", but given the state of the lifter industry these days perhaps these are actually useful. Once they're gone, they're gone - kinda like cutting up a teener.
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