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Dist for a 2.7 RS |
Red-Beard |
Feb 11 2004, 12:53 PM
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"Ya canna change the laws of Physics" Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,124 Joined: 11-February 03 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 288 Region Association: None |
As I started final assembly of my 2.7 RS spec motor (S cams, RS P&C,2.7 crank), I found the mechanical advance dist cap is cracked. It's a Marelli and it was setup for a 2.0T. I have a 2.7 vac adv dist, a Bosch. Will this work? Am I better off with something else?
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Joe Bob |
Feb 11 2004, 03:36 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Nope....Marrelli is a differernt animal....you would be better off converting to another dizzy. They don't make those no more and repalcement cap and rotors are NLA.
You occasionally find them on ebay....big bucks. Consider a Bosch or Mallory. Might wanna post over on the 9 eleben sky rat board. |
Red-Beard |
Feb 11 2004, 03:49 PM
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"Ya canna change the laws of Physics" Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,124 Joined: 11-February 03 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 288 Region Association: None |
I was just informed the 2.7 bosch will not fit my early case.i
James |
Joe Bob |
Feb 11 2004, 03:54 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
There have been converted motors,,,seen them, never really paid any attention as I never had to do one.....try calling Glenn Sager of Don and Glenn's 914 Barbeque fame.....
909-784-0425 |
GLENN914-6 |
Feb 11 2004, 04:07 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 15-January 04 From: HIGH POINT, NC Member No.: 1,565 |
Red Beard
what case is your 2.7 rs built on? The 2.7 bosch dist. is supposed to be an excellent dist for any carbed eng 2.2 to 3.2, but again what case did you build it on? Glenn914-6 |
Brad Roberts |
Feb 11 2004, 07:51 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
For a very large lump sum I can steal the one from the ORIGINAL 73 2.7RS in the shop right now. Awesome car. 7400RPM redline. Factory rocket.
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J P Stein |
Feb 11 2004, 08:17 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
There is a Bosch replacement for the Marrelli. I've never had to go lookin' for one, tho.
RS dizzys are about 300 bucks.....actually 74 Euro Carrera.....same motor as the RS. |
Red-Beard |
Feb 11 2004, 10:19 PM
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"Ya canna change the laws of Physics" Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,124 Joined: 11-February 03 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 288 Region Association: None |
Engine was built on my 914/6 case, so call it a 2.0T circa 1969 (September!).
I have an offer of a 2.0 E distrubutor that has been rebuilt. I would just re-use the 2.0, but the cap is cracked. And I think moving to a closer distributor would be the way to go. Hmmm. Will the 2.7RS distributor fit my case... How much you want for it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge24.gif) Serioursly though, can anyone confirm that a 2.7 distributor will not fit the 2.0T case? |
meursault |
Feb 12 2004, 12:57 AM
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Idjit Savant Group: Members Posts: 290 Joined: 26-February 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 355 |
Yes, a 2.7 distributor will not fit a 2.0 case. You are safe with a distributor out of any 2.0 or 2.2 motor...the "e" distributor should do nicely.
You'll notice that the 2.7 distributor has a large area cast into it to allow for ignition timing adjustments, rather than the plate/cinch bolt setup of the earlier distributors. That area will prevent the distributor from seating properly in your early case. I have actually seen people machine off that area to use it with an early case. If you need a cap for the Marelli, I can probably point you to some used ones local to you. Oh, just an afterthought...you may want to avoid cast iron distributors from pre-68 cars. They use two piece points that I always seem to ground out and require modification (albeit minor) to the cap. |
Red-Beard |
Feb 12 2004, 07:31 AM
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"Ya canna change the laws of Physics" Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,124 Joined: 11-February 03 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 288 Region Association: None |
Point away!
Actually, I'm going to have to break the engine in on the Marrelli, so if you know someone with a used cap, that would be great. The e-mail link here should work. James |
Joe Bob |
Feb 12 2004, 08:35 AM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Did you try Glenn? Or better yet, Scheider Autohaus, 805-962-8015.
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Red-Beard |
Feb 12 2004, 08:43 AM
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"Ya canna change the laws of Physics" Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,124 Joined: 11-February 03 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 288 Region Association: None |
Not yet. But I'll call Glenn and the rest today.
James |
jtf914 |
Feb 12 2004, 01:42 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 428 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Burlington, CT Member No.: 58 Region Association: North East States |
There's a Marelli from a 71 911 T 2.2 ending on ebay in 45min (it's now 2:40pm) with cap/rotor, currently at $35:
Marelli -or- Let me know, because I have a complete one sitting in my parts bin from my -6. -Justin |
JmuRiz |
Feb 12 2004, 01:58 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,503 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
James,
How did you get your 2.0 to become a 2.7? I'm guessing it took some serious mods. Not just a 'simple' p/c, crank and cam swap. Done any dyno runs on it? Just curious, I'm still in 4 cyl world myself. |
Red-Beard |
Feb 12 2004, 07:52 PM
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"Ya canna change the laws of Physics" Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,124 Joined: 11-February 03 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 288 Region Association: None |
Dyno runs? Sheesh, I'm still working at getting it back into the car.
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JmuRiz |
Feb 12 2004, 09:50 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,503 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Didn't know if you did any of them fancy 'engineoutofcar' dynos or anything. Good luck though...i'm just a little jealous.
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mightyohm |
Feb 12 2004, 11:46 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,277 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 162 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Is a 2.0 case even a 5R?
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Red-Beard |
Feb 12 2004, 11:59 PM
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"Ya canna change the laws of Physics" Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,124 Joined: 11-February 03 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 288 Region Association: None |
Uh - no....
It's built on my original case. I had the case extensively modified to take the larger cylinders, installed piston squirters for the Nikasil Cylinders, The crank&rods were changed to a 2.4, case savers installed at _every_ tapped hole, S cams, ported cylinder heads, standard S valves, RS pistons and cylinders, ported the intake manifolds to match the cylinder intakes. I expect at least 210 hp. James (IMG:style_emoticons/default/MDB2.gif) |
ArtechnikA |
Feb 13 2004, 02:28 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Red-Beard @ Feb 12 2004, 09:59 PM) I expect at least 210 hp. good luck on that... what kind of induction are you using ? the factory got 210 but they used MFI ... |
Red-Beard |
Feb 13 2004, 11:52 PM
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"Ya canna change the laws of Physics" Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,124 Joined: 11-February 03 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 288 Region Association: None |
210 was supposed to be min power, but I expect I'll get it. I'm using rebuilt Webers, rejetted for the 2.7
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