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> I want to be like JP :D, Well, kinda
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post Jan 11 2009, 08:48 PM
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Hey JP... I noticed the metal you cut off where the rear bumper went. maybe we can all learn from your madness (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Did you do it for weight savings, engine clearance, or what?

I am thinking of doing the same only keep the bumper on since I drive it on the street. Just take off the metal that does nothing. How about that tow mount. Looks worthless as well.
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post Jan 11 2009, 09:22 PM
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like this ?


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post Jan 11 2009, 10:00 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Not quite that extreme. There is just all that metal that hangs down for the valance, which may never go back on my car. I may do something to the sides but I love to look of the Triad under the bumper (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) I know JP has a cage. Does this act as structural material or is it just weight?
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post Jan 11 2009, 10:11 PM
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No real good reason...it saves 3-4 lbs from the back end and vents hot air from under the car.....mostly, I didn't need it.
It also gives a nice clear exit for cones. My lovely Triad muffler has melted cone guts all over its bottom.

As I've said before, when in search of weight to loss ya gotta be ruthless.

If your muffler tucks up behind the rear bumper as in a normal 914, I'd leave it alone. Your FG bumper might not like it.....didn't need one of those either. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

ALL the crap back there is excess weight....muffler shroud, valence, the hanging down bulkhead, tow hook......shittage all.
The back end is the toughest place to loose weight.
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post Jan 11 2009, 10:16 PM
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Well, I have a street legal car since I drive it to events. I have the metal bumper on there but everything is shaved off now so it is just the pad and bumper. Tits are gone as of today and being shipped to another teener that was them. I will be starting my cutting on random stuff very soon. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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post Jan 11 2009, 10:45 PM
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See, this is why I continually improve (?) my car.....I'm a moving target for you young whippersnappers with quick hands.
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post Jan 11 2009, 10:52 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) I don't plan on having this car anywhere near you car JP. Like I said, I want to come close. I feel confident but time will tell (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Can't wait for the match though (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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post Jan 12 2009, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(McMark @ Jan 10 2009, 06:10 PM) *

I usually get get a satin black powder because it looks great and ain't nobody else going to 'call me out' on it. If I were to build and original as possible car, I would have the parts painted.

Here's a couple pics of what I did to Randal Barrick's car. The trunk floor is cut out as well.


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post Jan 12 2009, 02:57 PM
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I would suggest that since its a street car you might want to leave the structure...though I am not sure its required...but it may keep the rear trunk valance square...

Drill it out with a 2 inch hole saw, but the leave enough to provide the sheer resistance. It will then melt a fiberglass bumper so beware.

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post Jan 12 2009, 03:00 PM
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Humf....I sold my rear FG bumper for around 100 bucks IIRC.
Sold the stock rear valence too.
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post Jan 12 2009, 03:08 PM
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I saw a car that arrived at hershey a few hours late last year...and it was for sale.
VA plate on it...
I know why he was late.
His bumper and valance..both fiberglass, had melted right around the license plate...he was still smoking when he arrived.
Sad but funny.
He put a big for sale sign attached to the car OVER this area right after he arrived...

It was dripping on the ground...looked cool.

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post Jan 12 2009, 03:13 PM
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I cut mine out too...

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post Jan 12 2009, 03:19 PM
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post Jan 12 2009, 03:20 PM
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Gosh, I need to rethink the rear of Carreror.
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post Jan 12 2009, 06:45 PM
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Well, I do have the metal bumper and don't plan on doing anything different other than taking everything that adds aeight to it. So if I cut where the valance is up to the trunk deck will I be melting the rubber bumper tops? And if I cut anything out of the trunk area is it assumed I never put the roof in there? If I get everything light enough I could just pop the bumper off when I get to the track and put it on when I leave. Oh, and also, if I cut any of the trunk do I need to start bracing with bars/ cage material?
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post Jan 12 2009, 07:09 PM
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I didn't find much structural difference when removing the entire trunk floor. The transmission support crossmember was STILL strong enough to support a 200+ lb. person jumping on it.


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post Jan 12 2009, 09:03 PM
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Mark I thought you were only 185#s?
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post Jan 12 2009, 09:52 PM
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I didn't find much structural difference when removing the entire trunk floor. The transmission support crossmember was STILL strong enough to support a 200+ lb. person jumping on it.


But what will cutting all this out do to my lights and all? I am guessing if I drive in the rain water will get up there? Plus there is the added heat thing. What should I do to deal with that issue?
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post Jan 12 2009, 11:18 PM
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I am unclear why you are doing this...but
From an Aero point of view I think when you cut out the trunk floor you create a bit of a pocket for air that may make a problem.
If you cut out a section between the lights and the latch on both sides, that should let the air and heat escape.

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post Jan 13 2009, 01:10 AM
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Just looking to shed as much weight as I can without making the car LOOK like a dedicated track car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) So maybe the trunk will stay for now... I don't know. I may just search out all brants threads and try to go through everything like he did.

I am even shedding my weight. I ws at 190 but stopped lifting to gain. I started running and was down to 180 until I got sick a few weeks ago. Back to 185 but I think if I keep it up I can get down to 170- 175.

I am working ALL avenues to shed weight while keeping the car looking like a 914. I love this car and I don't want to take away from the outter look to drop weight. I really am going to go for more of a Euro 914 with a few American things. When I paint the car... who knows when that will be... I will remove the front badge. The Porsche stipe will stay on the side. No PORSCHE on the engine lid. 914-6-VW-PORSCHE badge for the rear. Euro signals for front and rear but keep the side makers, no matter how much some hate them. That said, on the inside and under the car I will take everything and add strngth where needed and remoce anything that isn't. This car is really just for fun and autocrossing.

Make sense now Rich?
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