Another eBay find, '73 misrepresented and no VIN tag ... |
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Another eBay find, '73 misrepresented and no VIN tag ... |
SirAndy |
Feb 7 2009, 07:43 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-914...%3A1|240%3A1308 This is *not* a '71 body! And there's no VIN tag on the A-Pillar ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) Andy |
r_towle |
Feb 7 2009, 07:48 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
looks like a 73/73...not sure based upon the front trunk.
Did he post a vin number. Rich |
SirAndy |
Feb 7 2009, 07:50 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
looks like a 73/73...not sure based upon the front trunk. Did he post a vin number. Rich Yes, i meant '73, typo ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy |
Joe Bob |
Feb 7 2009, 07:56 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Hmmmm, dunno how it got by the automated ebay thingy. They pretty much require a VIN to be posted.
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LarryR |
Feb 7 2009, 07:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 929 Joined: 15-March 07 From: E. Bay Area, N. California Member No.: 7,604 |
I guess it could be possible that the back pad, wheels, front bumper and engine were all swapped out for later model stuff.
I am guessing this could very well be since its also originally a silver car that is now red. Sure not worth the almost 7k he is asking IMO. |
SirAndy |
Feb 7 2009, 08:08 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I guess it could be possible that the back pad, wheels, front bumper and engine were all swapped out for later model stuff. Yeah, but nobody welds in the brace in the front trunk. That didn't show up until '73 ... And then there's the movable passenger seat ... And a functional center console (wiring isn't in the car until '73) ... And the sidevents on the dash ... And the tar mat in the engine bay ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy |
SirAndy |
Feb 7 2009, 08:11 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Oh, and the VIN tag on the headlight bucket is missing too!
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) Andy |
Johny Blackstain |
Feb 7 2009, 08:19 PM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Yeah, but nobody welds in the brace in the front trunk. That didn't show up until '73 ... I am Andy- bought the brace (in 2 pieces) for the front of my 70. Hard part is going to be getting it to fit over the oil cooler. I like to "hot rod" w/ factory parts (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
Pat Garvey |
Feb 7 2009, 08:25 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
Ya know, one of the things that pisses me off the most, is people who represent something that is TOTALLY BOGUS. This car is an example, from a guy who has a 100% rating? Screws the rest of us who are honest. There is nothing correct about this 914! In fact, I've notified eBay about this car. And, I emailed th seller.
I'll bet it's a "clipped" 914. |
SirAndy |
Feb 7 2009, 08:29 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I'll bet it's a "clipped" 914. Actually, it's silver front to rear. I'm guessing it's a "rebody" ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Andy |
So.Cal.914 |
Feb 7 2009, 08:47 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
But doesn't the 912 manual automaticly change it into a 71? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Then you click your heels three times and say: "There's no place like evil bay, there's no place like evil bay, there's no place like evil bay..." (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) |
SirAndy |
Feb 7 2009, 09:11 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I emailed the guy, here's his response:
QUOTE clear title in hand. We do not give the vin #'s on our older cars as we have almost been scammed by a scammer that tried to get a title for one of our cars in another state. It is titled as a 71. Well, that settles it then! Or not ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Andy |
johnnie5 |
Feb 7 2009, 09:13 PM
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914 lover Group: Members Posts: 375 Joined: 14-October 08 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 9,644 Region Association: Southern California |
I guess it could be possible that the back pad, wheels, front bumper and engine were all swapped out for later model stuff. Yeah, but nobody welds in the brace in the front trunk. That didn't show up until '73 ... And then there's the movable passenger seat ... And a functional center console (wiring isn't in the car until '73) ... And the sidevents on the dash ... And the tar mat in the engine bay ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy And the silver dot gauges...150 mph speedo... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) |
So.Cal.914 |
Feb 7 2009, 09:41 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
My early 74 has silver dot's. I smell a Rat.
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orange914 |
Feb 7 2009, 09:43 PM
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http://5starmediaworks.com/index.html Group: Members Posts: 3,371 Joined: 26-March 05 From: Ceres, California Member No.: 3,818 Region Association: Northern California |
ain't nothin' going to get by this crew. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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914 |
Feb 7 2009, 10:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 450 Joined: 26-December 02 Member No.: 19 Region Association: Southern California |
I just looked at it on Ebay,and its a "Dog" Stay away from it or it will bite you...
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TC 914-8 |
Feb 8 2009, 12:44 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 812 Joined: 23-May 08 From: Sequim, WA Member No.: 9,090 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Did anyone notice the tach. It has left and right turn signial indicator lights, I thought that was a 911 thing ???
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So.Cal.914 |
Feb 8 2009, 12:51 AM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
early 914's too.
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r_towle |
Feb 8 2009, 09:20 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Lets say for instance that at some point in time...it was re-titled with the wrong year....just due to someone mistyping.
The VIN tag is on the inner fender behind the headlight bucket. The VIN is also stamped on the top of the inner fender. There may be a VIN behind the windshield...I cant see Its a car with a VIN...how hard is it to get the registry to see that the number and the year are mismatched...and get it fixed? Rich |
LvSteveH |
Feb 8 2009, 10:43 AM
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I put the Poor in Porsche Group: Members Posts: 1,080 Joined: 22-April 03 From: Las Vegas, Nevada Member No.: 600 |
He may not want to give the VIN out because it's a non-porsche, state issued VIN. That secondary blue and silver tag rivited to the inner fender next to where the stock VIN should be means the DMV has gotten involved somewhere.
That tag could also contain a proper porsche VIN, it just wouldn't be the one the car was born with given the late chassis. It's one of those situations where it may be technically legal because they went through the DMV, but in either case it's less than ideal. I had a 914 with title issues a few years ago and convincing the DMV there was a problem in the first place was the hardest part. I ultimately got it fixed and the car was returned to the VIN it was born with, but it was an ordeal. It also ended up with the DMV issued vin plates. Attached image(s) |
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