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Welders and metal guys, Need your advice |
PeeGreen 914 |
Feb 10 2009, 10:29 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
So as some of you noticed I am in process of removing the old four mounts. As I got them most of the way off I am seeing our little friends (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) It doesn't look like it is really rusty but it has thined out the metal a bit. What is the best way to take care of this? This is an autocross car and sees a bit of twist of the suspension.
Thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Sorry about the poor quality pics. I just ran out and snapped them quickly. Attached image(s) |
So.Cal.914 |
Feb 10 2009, 10:40 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
if it were me, and it will be soon, I would treat the metal for rust, weld a plate over the area and run you a brace over to the suspension pivot. IMHO (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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rick 918-S |
Feb 10 2009, 10:42 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,730 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Do you have a chassis stiffening kit installed on the other side of the rail?
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PeeGreen 914 |
Feb 10 2009, 10:43 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
That is really all I am thinking of doing but I would like to hear from other guys what they have done. I know there will be some bracing done here as well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif) We have some very talented guys on here and I am sure there is some good learning to come from this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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PeeGreen 914 |
Feb 10 2009, 10:44 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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PanelBilly |
Feb 10 2009, 10:44 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,844 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
That's what mine looked like. I think the metal was still plenty thick and I just cleaned it up and primed it. Looks a little pitted, but i think it will carry the load fine. Then again, I don't plan on trying to twist the dickens out of it, like do will.
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So.Cal.914 |
Feb 10 2009, 10:45 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
Here's a pic:
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rick 918-S |
Feb 10 2009, 10:51 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,730 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
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PeeGreen 914 |
Feb 10 2009, 11:00 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
That looks much like what I am planning. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)
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slow914 |
Feb 10 2009, 11:10 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 150 Joined: 5-February 08 From: Kirkland, WA Member No.: 8,671 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Damn makes me wish I didn't have a four so I could do that, also makes me wonder whats under my mounts???
The only true way to get rid of rust like that is with one of those little sandblaster things LINK. A total bitch but worth it I think. I went through 500 pounds in my trunk and hellhole though maybe I'm just a masochist |
messix |
Feb 10 2009, 11:14 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
slap some jb weld on there good as new (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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SirAndy |
Feb 10 2009, 11:14 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,854 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Just patch it up and take the opportunity to add some triangulation to your suspension console ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) Andy |
PeeGreen 914 |
Feb 10 2009, 11:18 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Damn makes me wish I didn't have a four so I could do that, also makes me wonder whats under my mounts??? The only true way to get rid of rust like that is with one of those little sandblaster things LINK. A total bitch but worth it I think. I went through 500 pounds in my trunk and hellhole though maybe I'm just a masochist You know you are always welcome to come over and drink my beer any time.... oh, and if you want to do any work feel free (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) and if beer isn't good enough I have a full bar... and I have a hot wife... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) I have seen your work and am very impressed. |
slow914 |
Feb 10 2009, 11:27 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 150 Joined: 5-February 08 From: Kirkland, WA Member No.: 8,671 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
As soon as my car has paint on it I'll be right over haha (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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So.Cal.914 |
Feb 10 2009, 11:33 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
You know you are always welcome to come over and drink my beer any time.... oh, and if you want to do any work feel free (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) and if beer isn't good enough I have a full bar... and I have a hot wife... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) I have seen your work and am very impressed. Is tomorrow soon enough? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) |
PeeGreen 914 |
Feb 10 2009, 11:42 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Wow Paul... I know if I need your help you'll be here quickly (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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Richard Casto |
Feb 11 2009, 07:14 AM
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Blue Sky Motorsports, LLC Group: Members Posts: 1,465 Joined: 2-August 05 From: Durham, NC Member No.: 4,523 Region Association: South East States |
Jon,
I had similar rust issues when I removed my 4 cyl mount on that side. Mine was a bit worse. I think yours is probably still pretty solid. If i was you I would... 1. Media blast it. Especially to remove any rust from the pitted areas that will be hard to get out via grinding or wire wheel. 2. Treat it with Ospho and POR-15 3. Reskin the outside with new metal. I replicated the divit on the bottom right via some extra work on my new skin. You can see some photos of mine here... http://motorsport.zyyz.com/project_914_03_02.htm |
PeeGreen 914 |
Feb 11 2009, 01:04 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Thanks Richard. I think what you did will be a little overkill for the section on my car as the rust appears to be localized in the upper area of where the mount was. I am going to clean it, kill the rust, and weld a new nice piece of metal with a brace to the suspension. Almost exactly what the yellow car above has. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)
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So.Cal.914 |
Feb 11 2009, 01:21 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Wow Paul... I know if I need your help you'll be here quickly (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) If I was closer you'd be right. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
J P Stein |
Feb 11 2009, 05:39 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
Since you're gonna be under there, stinger in hand......DWD alert! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
The factory welding on the underside of the suspension console cries out for help. Seal welding the pointy end of the pinch seam around the ear, then foreward to the firewall & aft to the trans mount will help prevent the cracking on the ear and at the arch over the axle. Smooth out the welding when your done. Piece of cake. I got away with no cracks and with no other structual fixes for 6-7 years of hard AXing with this done. BTW, don't get near that rust with Por-15......Rust Mort or Ospho with a coat or 2 of etching primer will see you thru ....till next time.(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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