Is this a good value , my 1st 914 , purchase, The desire for glory is not a sin , you try to remember that. |
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Is this a good value , my 1st 914 , purchase, The desire for glory is not a sin , you try to remember that. |
sam quartermain |
Feb 16 2009, 08:36 PM
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The desire for glory is not a sin, TY COBB Group: Members Posts: 58 Joined: 2-February 09 From: monrovaia ca/ tarzana ca Member No.: 10,011 Region Association: None |
So , here is a 914 , close to my area at 5200 it's not a steal or is it .
Right now is a rainy day and seller says that car is currently being stored outside. Is that the end of it right there ??? Seller says he will remove the rocker panels for closer inspection . please give me some feedback , if you can // 1974 PORSCHE 914 - $5200 (VAN NUYS, CA) NEW PAINT. CLEAN INTERIOR. ALL REALLY SERIOUS BUYERS MAY PLEASE LEAVE A VOICEMAIL WITH THE BEST TIME FOR SOMEONE TO CONTACT YOU. ONE OF US WILL CONTACT YOU AS SOON AS PLEASANTLY POSSIBLE. THANKS IN ADVANCE. Attached image(s) |
johnnie5 |
Feb 16 2009, 08:44 PM
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914 lover Group: Members Posts: 375 Joined: 14-October 08 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 9,644 Region Association: Southern California |
What are the particulars? need more info....
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sam quartermain |
Feb 16 2009, 08:45 PM
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The desire for glory is not a sin, TY COBB Group: Members Posts: 58 Joined: 2-February 09 From: monrovaia ca/ tarzana ca Member No.: 10,011 Region Association: None |
What are the particulars? need more info.... so far this is all the info ' ive got on it. i'll be going to see the car tonight , and i'll post more info asap.on it . But is it even worth considering the car since it's being kept outside in rain without a cover or garage ?????? |
Racer |
Feb 16 2009, 08:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 787 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Northern Virginia Member No.: 1,073 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Motor?- size and carbed or FI?
Paint? Seals? Rust? Trunks? All things I'd be curious about before making the trip (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
ericread |
Feb 16 2009, 08:55 PM
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The Viper Blue 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California |
But is it even worth considering the car since it's being kept outside in rain without a cover or garage ?????? Sure. It's been in SoCal so there hasn't been a lot of moisture to muck it up. Take a look - take lots of pics and share them here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
sam quartermain |
Feb 16 2009, 08:56 PM
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The desire for glory is not a sin, TY COBB Group: Members Posts: 58 Joined: 2-February 09 From: monrovaia ca/ tarzana ca Member No.: 10,011 Region Association: None |
But is it even worth considering the car since it's being kept outside in rain without a cover or garage ?????? Sure. It's been in SoCal so there hasn't been a lot of moisture to muck it up. Take a look - take lots of pics and share them here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) so sitting outside in the rain , for several weeks or years does not constitute MOISTURE??????????????????????????????????? |
sam quartermain |
Feb 16 2009, 08:58 PM
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The desire for glory is not a sin, TY COBB Group: Members Posts: 58 Joined: 2-February 09 From: monrovaia ca/ tarzana ca Member No.: 10,011 Region Association: None |
Motor?- size and carbed or FI? Paint? Seals? Rust? Trunks? All things I'd be curious about before making the trip (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) i'll look into all the stuff above. i don't think it's a 2-0 , paint ? seals ? rust , if it's rusted then i'm not into it. Just like a girl if she smoke's cig's no matter how hot she is , i'm not having it . |
ericread |
Feb 16 2009, 09:08 PM
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The Viper Blue 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California |
But is it even worth considering the car since it's being kept outside in rain without a cover or garage ?????? Sure. It's been in SoCal so there hasn't been a lot of moisture to muck it up. Take a look - take lots of pics and share them here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) so sitting outside in the rain , for several weeks or years does not constitute MOISTURE??????????????????????????????????? It all depends on how long it's been sitting outside. With the exception of the last couple of weeks, Southern California has been experiencing record droughts for the past 4-5 years. Not all that much rain, and pretty low humidity between the times it does rain. It's also good to remember that Southern California is basicly a desert environment. If we didn't have the ability to pipe significant amounts of water from Northern Cali, we would look more like Las Vegas than like, well... Southern California. It's not like it's been sitting in a field in Ohio. But I do agree with your basic premise. Since it's not a garaged car, it's quality is totally unknown at this point. And $5200 will buy a lot of 914 in today's economy. Eric |
tod914 |
Feb 16 2009, 09:16 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 |
Set up a PPI with these guys.
Porsche Independent Service TRE Motorsports Incorporated (818) 909-9220 15854 Strathern St, Van Nuys, CA 9140 They did a couple of cars for me and steered me clear away from what I thought was ok at the time. Do a compression and leakdown, only if the rest of the car is up to the standards your looking for. There right off Van Nuys blvd. Good luck |
sam quartermain |
Feb 16 2009, 09:18 PM
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The desire for glory is not a sin, TY COBB Group: Members Posts: 58 Joined: 2-February 09 From: monrovaia ca/ tarzana ca Member No.: 10,011 Region Association: None |
Set up a PPI with these guys. Porsche Independent Service TRE Motorsports Incorporated (818) 909-9220 15854 Strathern St, Van Nuys, CA 9140 They did a couple of cars for me and steered me clear away from what I thought was ok at the time. Do a compression and leakdown, only if the rest of the car is up to the standards your looking for. There right off Van Nuys blvd. Good luck thanks for the info . |
tod914 |
Feb 16 2009, 09:22 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 |
Sam, btw they might have a couple of leads on good cars for you as well.
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ericread |
Feb 17 2009, 08:53 AM
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The Viper Blue 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California |
Good folks over at TRE. It's also where I purchase my Brad-Penn oil.
Eric |
IronHillRestorations |
Feb 17 2009, 09:29 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,768 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
A good PPI, by a shop that knows 914's and Porsches will save you a bundle in the long run. You might pay a couple times for a car you shouldn't buy, but when you find a good one it's worth it. Just my .02
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JoeSharp |
Feb 17 2009, 09:38 AM
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In Irvine, Ca. May 15-18 Group: Members Posts: 3,947 Joined: 9-July 03 From: DeLand, Florida Member No.: 898 Region Association: South East States |
Dave at TRE has been racing 914's for years. Give them a call.
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ericread |
Feb 17 2009, 09:53 AM
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The Viper Blue 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California |
As for your comment "The desire for glory is not a sin":
That which incites a man to do good is apparently not a sin. Now the desire of glory incites men to do good. Glory may also signify a certain clarity, wherefore Augustine says (Tract. lxxxii, c, cxiv in Joan.) that to be "glorified is the same as to be clarified. Therefore the desire for Glory, or "clarification", is not a sin. However, glory as vanity is another matter. Glory may be called vain in three ways. First, on the part of the thing for which one seeks glory: as when a man seeks glory for that which is unworthy of glory, for instance when he seeks it for something frail and perishable: secondly, on the part of him from whom he seeks glory, for instance a man whose judgment is uncertain: thirdly, on the part of the man himself who seeks glory, for that he does not refer the desire of his own glory to a due end, such as God's honor, or the spiritual welfare of his neighbor. Much of the above was taken from "Summa Theologica" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
johnnie5 |
Feb 17 2009, 10:17 AM
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914 lover Group: Members Posts: 375 Joined: 14-October 08 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 9,644 Region Association: Southern California |
As for your comment "The desire for glory is not a sin": That which incites a man to do good is apparently not a sin. Now the desire of glory incites men to do good. Glory may also signify a certain clarity, wherefore Augustine says (Tract. lxxxii, c, cxiv in Joan.) that to be "glorified is the same as to be clarified. Therefore the desire for Glory, or "clarification", is not a sin. However, glory as vanity is another matter. Glory may be called vain in three ways. First, on the part of the thing for which one seeks glory: as when a man seeks glory for that which is unworthy of glory, for instance when he seeks it for something frail and perishable: secondly, on the part of him from whom he seeks glory, for instance a man whose judgment is uncertain: thirdly, on the part of the man himself who seeks glory, for that he does not refer the desire of his own glory to a due end, such as God's honor, or the spiritual welfare of his neighbor. Much of the above was taken from "Summa Theologica" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Wow. That is deep.... I haven't even had my morning coffee yet! |
sam quartermain |
Feb 17 2009, 01:46 PM
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The desire for glory is not a sin, TY COBB Group: Members Posts: 58 Joined: 2-February 09 From: monrovaia ca/ tarzana ca Member No.: 10,011 Region Association: None |
As for your comment "The desire for glory is not a sin": That which incites a man to do good is apparently not a sin. Now the desire of glory incites men to do good. Glory may also signify a certain clarity, wherefore Augustine says (Tract. lxxxii, c, cxiv in Joan.) that to be "glorified is the same as to be clarified. Therefore the desire for Glory, or "clarification", is not a sin. However, glory as vanity is another matter. Glory may be called vain in three ways. First, on the part of the thing for which one seeks glory: as when a man seeks glory for that which is unworthy of glory, for instance when he seeks it for something frail and perishable: secondly, on the part of him from whom he seeks glory, for instance a man whose judgment is uncertain: thirdly, on the part of the man himself who seeks glory, for that he does not refer the desire of his own glory to a due end, such as God's honor, or the spiritual welfare of his neighbor. Much of the above was taken from "Summa Theologica" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) That's pretty deep . The comment refers to the movie COBB in which the greatest baseball player ty cobb recounts the life and times of the king of cooperstown. " aren't you gonna give ruth credit for anything? he could run well for a fat man --- Attached image(s) |
ericread |
Feb 17 2009, 02:09 PM
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The Viper Blue 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California |
As for your comment "The desire for glory is not a sin": That which incites a man to do good is apparently not a sin. Now the desire of glory incites men to do good. Glory may also signify a certain clarity, wherefore Augustine says (Tract. lxxxii, c, cxiv in Joan.) that to be "glorified is the same as to be clarified. Therefore the desire for Glory, or "clarification", is not a sin. However, glory as vanity is another matter. Glory may be called vain in three ways. First, on the part of the thing for which one seeks glory: as when a man seeks glory for that which is unworthy of glory, for instance when he seeks it for something frail and perishable: secondly, on the part of him from whom he seeks glory, for instance a man whose judgment is uncertain: thirdly, on the part of the man himself who seeks glory, for that he does not refer the desire of his own glory to a due end, such as God's honor, or the spiritual welfare of his neighbor. Much of the above was taken from "Summa Theologica" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) That's pretty deep . The comment refers to the movie COBB in which the greatest baseball player ty cobb recounts the life and times of the king of cooperstown. " aren't you gonna give ruth credit for anything? he could run well for a fat man --- I just thought that if you were going to throw the quote in there, it should be discussed. The quote is actually from an analysis of Catholic theology which speaks to whether "vainglory" is punishable by eternal damnation. Glory is discussed as a subset to diferentiate it from vainglory. Quite an interesting subject. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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