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> 10" wide wheels on the rear of a stock fendered 914
513mugsy914
post Jun 15 2009, 08:30 AM
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So here is the big question...how do you go about fitting a 10" wide rear wheel on a stock fendered 914? Spacers and lip rolling? I have been told many times that this can not be done. On ebay for the next 15 hours there is a stock fendered 914 with a v8 conversion from FL that has it done. He has told me that his wrench man has added stiffer springs and modified the koni struts out back for everything to work. So what does anyone have to say about this? Is it do-able or am I looking for trouble down the road?
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post Jun 15 2009, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE(513mugsy914 @ Jun 15 2009, 07:30 AM) *

So here is the big question...how do you go about fitting a 10" wide rear wheel on a stock fendered 914? Spacers and lip rolling? I have been told many times that this can not be done. On ebay for the next 15 hours there is a stock fendered 914 with a v8 conversion from FL that has it done. He has told me that his wrench man has added stiffer springs and modified the koni struts out back for everything to work. So what does anyone have to say about this? Is it do-able or am I looking for trouble down the road?


I don't want to be rash, but I'm gonna stick my neck out on this one. I don't believe it's possible to fit and use a 10" wide wheel inside the rear fenders of a stock bodied 914 without interference. It's kinda like fitting a gallon of beer into a 12 oz. bottle. I take that all back, maybe a 10" wide 8" wheel will fit ..............

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post Jun 15 2009, 09:08 AM
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I recently flared my 914 by pounding out the rear fenders to fit 8 inch rims. One of the measurements that I was making to be sure left and right fenders were the same was from the inner fender well to the fender. This measurement was like 11 inches with a lot of pounding.

I don't think the stock fender will give even 8 or 9 inches clearance.

The only way to put 10in rims under a stock fender is to make sure the tires never go inside the fender cavity with by sitting the car higher and real stiff spring.


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post Jun 15 2009, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE(513mugsy914 @ Jun 15 2009, 07:30 AM) *

So here is the big question...how do you go about fitting a 10" wide rear wheel on a stock fendered 914? Spacers and lip rolling? I have been told many times that this can not be done. On ebay for the next 15 hours there is a stock fendered 914 with a v8 conversion from FL that has it done. He has told me that his wrench man has added stiffer springs and modified the koni struts out back for everything to work. So what does anyone have to say about this? Is it do-able or am I looking for trouble down the road?


Try it let use know what you find ..Then post pix and a vin # and you will me Golden.................AND (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png)
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post Jun 15 2009, 09:13 AM
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Can't be done. I commented on that car last week, the wheels look wide, but. Of course he had to add stiffer springs - it has a V-8.

And you know he wants $25K right?. Buy a Factory 914-6 for that money and have something that is worth something.

Here is a picture of my Flared car with a 15x9. I couldn't get a 10" Gotti under a Flared car

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post Jun 15 2009, 09:18 AM
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25K Holy chit that thing must be completey perfect in every way..Turn key ready to roll to the show and bring home 1st place
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post Jun 15 2009, 09:32 AM
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I see that he removed the $25K BuyItNow, but he said he has had offers above $18K

He also claims the Fuchs in Front are 9". they look like 7 or 8"s. Porsche did not make a Fuchs in a 10"

Here are some pics. The rears do look wide, but look at his underside pic, how do they fit?

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post Jun 15 2009, 09:33 AM
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I've been following the auction. 4 bids, 13hours left and sitting at 16k right now. NO reserve. Buy it now was 25K, but hey, can't blame the guy for hoping some fool would pull the switch for that price.
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post Jun 15 2009, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(carr914 @ Jun 15 2009, 11:32 AM) *

I see that he removed the $25K BuyItNow, but he said he has had offers above $18K

He also claims the Fuchs in Front are 9". they look like 7 or 8"s. Porsche did not make a Fuchs in a 10"

Here are some pics. The rears do look wide, but look at his underside pic, how do they fit?

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The only thing that I can figure is that car is so stiffly sprung that it can not have any suspension. From the pics of the car, it looks like the tire fits right in there. I just don't want to get everything done and say that I can run those wide wheels, nd then on the track burn the paint right off the outside of the fender. I don't know I think a little more detective work might be in order here.
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post Jun 15 2009, 10:50 AM
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It obviously has an undersized tire, but still I don't see how it can be done. It's not like the car is jacked-up like a 60's HotRod or tubbed out. Like I said I've got a 9" on the rear of my 914-6 Flared car and that's all it can take. I have 2 inches more room than he has.

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post Jun 15 2009, 11:05 AM
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From carr914, it sure looks like the guy has 9" wheels in the rear. The tire is
skinny for that wheel, too.

On my car for autocrossing I fit a tire that is a (edit 8.6") section width in
there, with only pulling that you wouldn't be able to see. Of course, his 9" wheel
is a ridiculously wrong offset, hence admitting to 'mods'. So apparently you can
do it if all of the below are true:
a. use narrow tire thus making a 9" wheel non-useful
b. mod the trailing arm
c. pull fender a bit
d. run extremely stiff springs

It would have been better and probably cheaper to widen a smaller fuchs to get
the right offset, or just go with the 3-piece fuchs mods various people make.
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post Jun 15 2009, 11:33 AM
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Thanks for the info. I know lots about 911's but I am fresh when it comes to 914's.
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post Jun 15 2009, 12:47 PM
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absolutely no way the rears are 10".

Look at my fronts - that is a 10" wide tire. They look like steamrollers compared to the rear of that car.

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post Jun 15 2009, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(513mugsy914 @ Jun 15 2009, 01:33 PM) *

Thanks for the info. I know lots about 911's but I am fresh when it comes to 914's.


I can't tell from the underside pic, but wasn't there a guy on the old board (I think his name was Timo) who narrowed his trailing arms to fit wider wheels and tires under stock fenders???
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QUOTE(byndbad914 @ Jun 15 2009, 02:47 PM) *

absolutely no way the rears are 10".

Look at my fronts - that is a 10" wide tire. They look like steamrollers compared to the rear of that car.


I agree they don't look like 10" rims...
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post Jun 15 2009, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE(513mugsy914 @ Jun 15 2009, 06:30 AM) *

how do you go about fitting a 10" wide rear wheel on a stock fendered 914?

You don't ...

If you get 10" to fit on a "stock" car, it won't be "stock" anymore. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Factory 7"/9" GT flares allow you to run 9" wide wheels (hence the name 9" flares).
So you can imagine how much you'd have to stretch a stock fender to fit a 10" wheel.

Good luck ...
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post Jun 15 2009, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(carr914 @ Jun 15 2009, 08:32 AM) *

I see that he removed the $25K BuyItNow, but he said he has had offers above $18K

He also claims the Fuchs in Front are 9". they look like 7 or 8"s. Porsche did not make a Fuchs in a 10"

Here are some pics. The rears do look wide, but look at his underside pic, how do they fit?

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Rockers and valance look silver in the underside pix and i only see 4 studs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) ...but ya never know
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post Jun 15 2009, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(Justin Fischer @ Jun 15 2009, 02:47 PM) *

QUOTE(513mugsy914 @ Jun 15 2009, 01:33 PM) *

Thanks for the info. I know lots about 911's but I am fresh when it comes to 914's.


I can't tell from the underside pic, but wasn't there a guy on the old board (I think his name was Timo) who narrowed his trailing arms to fit wider wheels and tires under stock fenders???


He may have modified his Trailing arms, but it's not tubbed out, so the inner fender well wall would still be a problem. And if you look at the underside picture and then think that his wheels have an offset with that Deep of a dish, it just doesn't make sense. He couldn't have pulled the fender out that much.

It's also possible that those wheels were put on for that set of pictures. I remember when I put my 10" Gottis on my old Flared car - it was only for pictures, I would have torn the flares & tires apart if I had ever drivin it.

I have thought from the beginning that there was something fishy about this car - don't forget about the VIN# miscue

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QUOTE(Justin Fischer @ Jun 15 2009, 10:47 AM) *

I can't tell from the underside pic, but wasn't there a guy on the old board (I think his name was Timo) who narrowed his trailing arms to fit wider wheels and tires under stock fenders???

And how exactly would modifying the trailing arm help with the available space between the car body and the fender?
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A modified trailing arms will only move the wheel relative to the fender.

It doesn't help with trying to squeeze a 10" wheel into a 8" opening ...
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It doesn't help with trying to squeeze a 10" wheel into a 8" opening ...



can't blame a guy for trying tho, eh? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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