914 EV discussion, Who's doing or done an electric 914? Options

[Joe Bob]

http://www.electroauto.com/gallery/vp914.shtml
http://electric914.wordpress.com/
http://www.evcl.com/914/

Electro Automotive has a kit for 14K...yikes.....
Otmar seems to be REAL busy building components.....

I'm thinkng of doing one for my twins..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
I have two years to get it done.....

[Joe Bob]

E85 needs a dedicated engine designed for that fuel. It also needs a stainless steel exhaust system. The entrained water rots the system otherwise.

There are only 2 e85 stations in Santa Barbara, one at the air force base the other at the university....both dedicated to fleet services and not open to the public. The require special tanks and delivery systems.

With the the new tank regs at Water Quality they have been letting them do new systems w/o the former requirements for methanol and e85 compatablity... and many have just two tanks, 87 and 91 with a blend valve for the mid grade.

So, for CA, the availability for the public isn't there....

We have a proposed Ethanol plant going into Guadalupe CA....a tiny town that the railroad forgot. They projectt 200 rail cars a day of corn....they would cut the town in two. Heart attack? Ya needs a helicopter to get over the trains.....they are in the middle of the best farmland in the area and they want to IMPORT corn.....

morons....

[banger]

E85 is ethanol, which is a little easier to handle than methanol. The exhaust isnt a problem, since once the engine is up to temp, any water in the exhaust is steam anyways. In some ways the engine is best if it is built for E85. If you run a regular engine on E85, you will have slightly reduced performance. But if you build an engine with E85 in mind, then you can raise the compression ration and take advantage of the higher octane. There is one filling station open to the public in Los Angeles. It is in westwood, behind the VA hospital. There website is Here They are actually running a special on E85 today, for 85 cents per gallon.

To convert a 914 you would need stainless steel fuel lines, new rubber fuel lines, and larger injectors. There have been a number of people who have converted air cooled VW engines to E85. The biggest benefits are the ability to run a higher compression ration, and head temps REDUCED by 40-50 degrees!

E85 needs a dedicated engine designed for that fuel. It also needs a stainless steel exhaust system. The entrained water rots the system otherwise.

There are only 2 e85 stations in Santa Barbara, one at the air force base the other at the university....both dedicated to fleet services and not open to the public. The require special tanks and delivery systems.

With the the new tank regs at Water Quality they have been letting them do new systems w/o the former requirements for methanol and e85 compatablity... and many have just two tanks, 87 and 91 with a blend valve for the mid grade.

So, for CA, the availability for the public isn't there....

We have a proposed Ethanol plant going into Guadalupe CA....a tiny town that the railroad forgot. They projectt 200 rail cars a day of corn....they would cut the town in two. Heart attack? Ya needs a helicopter to get over the trains.....they are in the middle of the best farmland in the area and they want to IMPORT corn.....

morons....