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stateofidleness
post Apr 3 2008, 08:06 PM
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so i have a dumb question.. i have my engine torn down to the heads and case and was my cylinders (i think) are kinda rusty (the little fins on it)

if i wanted to get a new cylinder/piston kit yada yada... can i get a "big bore" 96mm kit?

I didn't know if going with the big kit would require any modifying of the heads or case or something.. or if it would "bolt up" just like the stock parts.

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post Apr 4 2008, 12:48 PM
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so i can get the 96mm kit for $200 shipped? should i jump on it?

going with a buddy of mine tomorrow to a local 914 mechanic.. says i should go ahead and get the heads cleaned and bored (whats this cost?)

if i took my engine to the mechanic and told him to do the heads and to install the cylinder kit, what would that cost roughly?

also, i was asked if the valves would need to be changed (larger?)

sorry for all the questions, i just wanna do this right!
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QUOTE(stateofidleness @ Apr 4 2008, 10:48 AM) *

so i can get the 96mm kit for $200 shipped?

going with a buddy of mine tomorrow to a local 914 mechanic.. says i should go ahead and get the heads cleaned and bored (whats this cost?)

if i took my engine to the mechanic and told him to do the heads and to install the cylinder kit, what would that cost roughly?

also, i was asked if the valves would need to be changed (larger?)



you get what you pay for. search for quality comments on the set of p&c

to clean heads should not cost too much. i think they just dip them so....50 $? (@$80/hr)

never heard of "boring" heads. i have heard of flycutting heads which cleans up the seating surface between the heads and the tops of the cylinders. if boring the heads means enlarging the openings in the heads where the cylinders fit, i don't think this is necessary for a 1.8 or a 2.0 head, it is necessary for a 1.7.

since the engine is out of the car, to do the heads and install the p&c set would take (really a wild guess): 6-8 hours (@$80/hr shop labor rate) $6-700. this is where you should do it yourself if you want to keep the costs down. it is not complicated or difficult to install p&c's. if you're going to buy a $200 set of p&c's, then you should install them yourself.

alot more work would be required to enlarge the valves (need to install larger seats). i'm not sure there will be a significant increase in hp for larger valves so that might not be very cost effective. depending on the condition of the valves, you may need to change the valves.
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stateofidleness   big bore noob   Apr 3 2008, 08:06 PM
McMark   Need... more... info... Motor size? Complete tea...   Apr 3 2008, 08:33 PM
arvcube   But, yes, you can put a 96 on any setup and build...   Apr 4 2008, 12:21 AM
rick 918-S   No stupid questions. Nice to see someone working o...   Apr 3 2008, 10:11 PM
pete914   What's the HP increase seen moving to the 96 m...   Apr 3 2008, 10:18 PM
Cap'n Krusty   No stupid questions. Nice to see someone working ...   Apr 3 2008, 11:25 PM
Vacca Rabite   100 - 125, depending on exhaust and fuel induction...   Apr 3 2008, 10:53 PM
Cap'n Krusty   100 - 125, depending on exhaust and fuel inductio...   Apr 3 2008, 11:28 PM
McMark   Yup.   Apr 4 2008, 01:30 AM
stateofidleness   haha my texan speak... threw an extra "was...   Apr 4 2008, 06:06 AM
Vacca Rabite   Can your current cylinders get cleaned up and bore...   Apr 4 2008, 08:12 AM
Cevan   So if I took my '75 L-Jet 1.8 with 56K miles a...   Apr 4 2008, 08:28 AM
SirAndy   So if I took my '75 L-Jet 1.8 with 56K miles ...   Apr 4 2008, 12:33 PM
r_towle   So if I took my '75 L-Jet 1.8 with 56K miles...   Apr 4 2008, 01:49 PM
Cevan   [quote name='SirAndy' post='1016829' date='Apr 4 ...   Apr 4 2008, 03:29 PM
stateofidleness   was thinking that but i don't know anything ab...   Apr 4 2008, 08:33 AM
stateofidleness   so i can get the 96mm kit for $200 shipped? s...   Apr 4 2008, 12:48 PM
type47   so i can get the 96mm kit for $200 shipped? ...   Apr 5 2008, 07:09 AM
Marty Yeoman   Do it.   Apr 4 2008, 02:12 PM
Mark Henry   You will not get that kind of power increase from ...   Apr 5 2008, 09:20 AM
Joe Ricard   Yea 10 HP is really all you will get from a 1.8L g...   Apr 5 2008, 10:01 PM
degreeoff   Cam cam cam...it is the triple bybass part of the...   Apr 5 2008, 10:12 PM
stateofidleness   i dont know anything about engines and i feel im p...   Apr 5 2008, 10:26 PM
MrKona   i dont know anything about engines and i feel im ...   Apr 6 2008, 01:52 AM
stateofidleness   i bought that book tonight as a matter of fact...   Apr 6 2008, 01:56 AM
MrKona   i bought that book tonight as a matter of fact...   Apr 6 2008, 02:04 AM
degreeoff   You know I am sorry. I take for granted the COUNTL...   Apr 6 2008, 06:59 AM
Cevan   Jake also recommended doing the cam as well (not j...   Apr 6 2008, 08:49 AM
Vacca Rabite   Hey, I have seen Josh's cam. It is in great s...   Apr 6 2008, 10:32 AM
stateofidleness   i dont believe it is the cheap $200 set, i ju...   Apr 6 2008, 11:01 AM
Vacca Rabite   i dont believe it is the cheap $200 set, i j...   Apr 6 2008, 11:23 AM
Joe Ricard   If the stroke doesn't change and deck is simil...   Apr 6 2008, 06:14 PM
degreeoff   Hey Zach? You goina be ready for the 26th?   Apr 6 2008, 06:38 PM
Vacca Rabite   Hey Zach? You goina be ready for the 26th? HAHA...   Apr 6 2008, 10:16 PM
geniusanthony   Regarding: "After it was installed in the ca...   Apr 6 2008, 09:31 PM
anthony   Ok, I want to ask the million dollar question. Why...   Apr 7 2008, 06:33 PM
stateofidleness   I was gonna get the cylinders redone because they ...   Apr 7 2008, 06:50 PM
stateofidleness   RE: big bore noob   Apr 7 2008, 06:51 PM
anthony   Was this a good running engine that came out of yo...   Apr 7 2008, 07:07 PM
stateofidleness   thanks anthony.. the more i stand there and look a...   Apr 7 2008, 07:36 PM
anthony   Based on that I would recommend not taking the hea...   Apr 7 2008, 07:45 PM
stateofidleness   one step ahead of ya.. got all new mounts installe...   Apr 7 2008, 07:53 PM
Joe Ricard   New o-rings on the push rod tubes is easy at this ...   Apr 7 2008, 09:33 PM


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