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> What else should CFR Tangerine do to my 73 2.0?, Help me spend my money
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post Mar 1 2008, 11:12 PM
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At the suggestion of the board, I am bringing my 76 914 with a 73 2.0 (dual Webers) to Chris to have the engine and drive train looked at. I already have a new cam on the list. I'm also considering SS headers and break and fuel lines.

Any one else have any constructive suggestions OTHER THAN dropping in a V8 from a Cayenne GTS?

Thanks.
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post Apr 8 2008, 05:31 PM
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All this begs a good theoretical question-
Chris, If someone came to you and said, "I have a decent 914 and $3000, how do I make it better?"
What is your answer?
Suspension?
Brakes?
Engine (of course we ALL want a MasIVe, but that is whyI set the cost figure that challenges that choice)?
Exhaust?
Cooling?

I'm picking your brain for the experience you have, but I guess this would be a road car, not track. I have my opinions too, of course. I would go for trans rebuild first then Mallory and SSI/ tangerine and koni and Kumho (or better) and all bushings and a dead pedal. I think there might be money left for one tank of gas!
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post Apr 8 2008, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE(SGB @ Apr 8 2008, 07:31 PM) *

All this begs a good theoretical question-
Chris, If someone came to you and said, "I have a decent 914 and $3000, how do I make it better?"
What is your answer?
Suspension?
Brakes?
Engine (of course we ALL want a MasIVe, but that is whyI set the cost figure that challenges that choice)?
Exhaust?
Cooling?


Its tough to answer that on a purely theoretical basis due to the variables of specific condition of the vehicle and what is "better" in the eyes of the owner.
Does the owner want the car to handle better, look better, sound better, or just accelerate better?
Lets assume that NO needed repairs are discovered when the car is in the shop, and that the car is a mostly stock 2 liter -4.
Taking each of your categories in order, the things I would consider important to upgrade are: Suspension - adjustable front anti-sway bar and bigger rear springs, along with Bilstein or Koni shocks (choice depends on customer preference); Brakes - you don't need to spend much money to have good brakes, good pads with a high coefficient of friction and a M/C brace to prevent firewall flex; Engine - for $3K you might (barely) squeeze in a cam swap, head work and dual carbs for 20 or more hp gain; Exhaust - a Tangerine Header by itself will give approximately 9% more torque and hp nearly across the entire rpm range, and make the engine sound more like a Porsche than a VW; Cooling - the engine will run cooler with a Tangerine Header installed.
I think if you do all the installation yourself you could get the exhaust, suspension, and brake upgrades mentioned and meet the budget. Having a shop do the labor will cost about another $1K.

Another approach would be to spend the $$ for 911 front suspension and calipers, 5 lug rear hubs and good wheels/tires. Also needed would be a 19mm M/C and replace the prop valve with a tee.
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auerbach   What else should CFR Tangerine do to my 73 2.0?   Mar 1 2008, 11:12 PM
sww914   How much money do you want to spend? What else doe...   Mar 1 2008, 11:17 PM
auerbach   Thanks I'll add that to the discussion list...   Mar 1 2008, 11:39 PM
So.Cal.914   How much money do you want to spend? What else do...   Mar 2 2008, 01:55 AM
auerbach   How much money do you want to spend? What else d...   Mar 2 2008, 07:19 AM
jd74914   Are you looking for more engine improvements or wi...   Mar 2 2008, 01:49 AM
Rleog   No harm in getting lots of opinions but, as Jim D ...   Mar 2 2008, 09:28 AM
auerbach   That's the plan, but I have to have my "l...   Mar 2 2008, 08:24 PM
Racer Chris   No harm in getting lots of opinions but, as Jim D...   Apr 8 2008, 02:27 PM
jd74914   Well, Chris does have quite a bit of cool stuff in...   Mar 2 2008, 09:45 PM
firstknight13   :D how far do you want to take it. CFR does awesom...   Mar 2 2008, 11:07 PM
Jake Raby   Make it MassIVe :-) Chris knows all about install...   Mar 3 2008, 10:44 AM
purple   give it to me and you wont have any more compulsiv...   Mar 3 2008, 12:07 PM
SGB   All this begs a good theoretical question- Chris, ...   Apr 8 2008, 05:31 PM
Racer Chris   All this begs a good theoretical question- Chris,...   Apr 8 2008, 06:54 PM
George H.   :hijacked: Chris as long as you are here what ...   Apr 8 2008, 06:59 PM
Racer Chris   Chris as long as you are here what is the diffe...   Apr 9 2008, 01:32 PM
George H.   Chris as long as you are here what is the diff...   Apr 9 2008, 02:01 PM
auerbach   not to interrupt this portion of the thread, but C...   Apr 8 2008, 11:28 PM
Jake Raby   not to interrupt this portion of the thread, but ...   Apr 9 2008, 06:22 AM
ejm   Chris and I have chatted about him being a NW rep...   Apr 9 2008, 08:36 PM
jd74914   You car looks good Lee. I saw it sometime after yo...   Apr 8 2008, 11:48 PM
SGB   Thanks for the great response Mr Foley! My ne...   Apr 9 2008, 07:02 AM
auerbach   I was finding it very interesting :Qarl:   Apr 9 2008, 01:56 PM
Racer Chris   I was finding it very interesting :Qarl: In ord...   Apr 9 2008, 05:32 PM
Travis Neff   preventing the firewall from flexing under hard b...   Apr 9 2008, 05:40 PM
Racer Chris   Nice! A much simpler design, but why not fli...   Apr 9 2008, 06:35 PM
Travis Neff   When I say flip the angle iron to support the bott...   Apr 9 2008, 05:50 PM
Racer Chris   When I say flip the angle iron to support the bot...   Apr 10 2008, 05:59 PM
auerbach   I'm truly impressed! :driving:   Apr 9 2008, 07:51 PM
Racer Chris   I'm truly impressed! :driving: We ran th...   Apr 10 2008, 06:07 PM
Travis Neff   Giddyup!   Apr 10 2008, 06:03 PM
auerbach   I found the same thing with my wife's credit c...   Apr 10 2008, 06:27 PM
ejm   All that I need is to mistakenly hit the cut off...   Apr 10 2008, 07:24 PM
auerbach   For those of you who are having some difficulty fo...   Apr 10 2008, 10:30 PM
Racer Chris   ... The patient has had good days and bad and it ...   Apr 11 2008, 05:46 PM
DNHunt   I just added a switch like that. It kills power to...   Apr 11 2008, 08:43 AM
ChrisNPDrider   :rotfl: Whenever my fuel light starts blinking, I...   Apr 11 2008, 09:16 PM
auerbach   I'm so glad that my major medical policy is pa...   Apr 11 2008, 09:45 PM


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