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> Multiple Spark systems, Mallory, Permatune with DJET???
r_towle
post May 5 2008, 04:55 PM
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So, as the title says.
Do these multi spark systems work with DJet?

If so, are there improvements?
I am not looking for more power, but more MPG...more efficient burn.

Rich
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post May 6 2008, 02:17 PM
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Why would you stay with points? It seems an odd mix of new & old technology. How about a Pertronix? Orrrr, doesn't MSD provide an electronic points replacement?

I've been using Pertronix for about 15 months and never had a problem.

With MSD I'm told you don't need the tach adapter for the engine to spark correctly (2.0L D-Jet), but you need the adapter for the tachometer to work (kinda makes sense) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) .
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QUOTE(ericread @ May 6 2008, 04:17 PM) *

Why would you stay with points? It seems an odd mix of new & old technology. How about a Pertronix? Orrrr, doesn't MSD provide an electronic points replacement?

I've been using Pertronix for about 15 months and never had a problem.

With MSD I'm told you don't need the tach adapter for the engine to spark correctly (2.0L D-Jet), but you need the adapter for the tachometer to work (kinda makes sense) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) .


From what I have learned about Petronix there is one benefit.
Pro...no longer need to adjust points, or set dwell.
This is part of a tune up, so its a good time for me to listen to the car and see how things are going.

Con, when they die (petronix) you are left stranded on the side of the road with no solution.
They cost alot. I can buy alot of points for what petronix costs.
It does nothing to improve the performance of the engine, it just eliminates the effort it takes to set up your points correctly. I like doing that.

Overall, if I have an issue with my $7 dollar set of points (two per year, so $14 per year), I reach in the glove box, put in a new set, use a matchbook (or even by eye) to set the gap and I can get home to my tools.
With petronix..call a tow truck.

BTW, I have never ever ever had a set of point leave me on the side of the road...ever.
They dont die...they wear out sure...but so do my shoes...I know when the point are wearing out..I can feel the performance degrade.

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post May 6 2008, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ May 6 2008, 02:02 PM) *

QUOTE(ericread @ May 6 2008, 04:17 PM) *

Why would you stay with points? It seems an odd mix of new & old technology. How about a Pertronix? Orrrr, doesn't MSD provide an electronic points replacement?

I've been using Pertronix for about 15 months and never had a problem.

With MSD I'm told you don't need the tach adapter for the engine to spark correctly (2.0L D-Jet), but you need the adapter for the tachometer to work (kinda makes sense) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) .


From what I have learned about Petronix there is one benefit.
Pro...no longer need to adjust points, or set dwell.
This is part of a tune up, so its a good time for me to listen to the car and see how things are going.

Con, when they die (petronix) you are left stranded on the side of the road with no solution.
They cost alot. I can buy alot of points for what petronix costs.
It does nothing to improve the performance of the engine, it just eliminates the effort it takes to set up your points correctly. I like doing that.

Overall, if I have an issue with my $7 dollar set of points (two per year, so $14 per year), I reach in the glove box, put in a new set, use a matchbook (or even by eye) to set the gap and I can get home to my tools.
With petronix..call a tow truck.

BTW, I have never ever ever had a set of point leave me on the side of the road...ever.
They dont die...they wear out sure...but so do my shoes...I know when the point are wearing out..I can feel the performance degrade.

Rich
I've had a set of points and a 914 strand me.

When I use a pertronix, I keep a known good distributor in the trunk all set up and ready to go. One 11mm wrench, a little timing by ear and you're back on the road again and on your way home to the garage.
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QUOTE(Gint @ May 6 2008, 11:14 PM) *

QUOTE(r_towle @ May 6 2008, 02:02 PM) *

QUOTE(ericread @ May 6 2008, 04:17 PM) *

Why would you stay with points? It seems an odd mix of new & old technology. How about a Pertronix? Orrrr, doesn't MSD provide an electronic points replacement?

I've been using Pertronix for about 15 months and never had a problem.

With MSD I'm told you don't need the tach adapter for the engine to spark correctly (2.0L D-Jet), but you need the adapter for the tachometer to work (kinda makes sense) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) .


From what I have learned about Petronix there is one benefit.
Pro...no longer need to adjust points, or set dwell.
This is part of a tune up, so its a good time for me to listen to the car and see how things are going.

Con, when they die (petronix) you are left stranded on the side of the road with no solution.
They cost alot. I can buy alot of points for what petronix costs.
It does nothing to improve the performance of the engine, it just eliminates the effort it takes to set up your points correctly. I like doing that.

Overall, if I have an issue with my $7 dollar set of points (two per year, so $14 per year), I reach in the glove box, put in a new set, use a matchbook (or even by eye) to set the gap and I can get home to my tools.
With petronix..call a tow truck.

BTW, I have never ever ever had a set of point leave me on the side of the road...ever.
They dont die...they wear out sure...but so do my shoes...I know when the point are wearing out..I can feel the performance degrade.

Rich
I've had a set of points and a 914 strand me.

When I use a pertronix, I keep a known good distributor in the trunk all set up and ready to go. One 11mm wrench, a little timing by ear and you're back on the road again and on your way home to the garage.


A condensor may have...but not points unless the contact fell off the point...then you really should have looked at them a bit sooner.

You keep a whole petronix and distributor in the trunk? So you have two petronix systems??? lol
Points fit in my glovebox....

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QUOTE(r_towle @ May 6 2008, 08:18 PM) *

QUOTE(Gint @ May 6 2008, 11:14 PM) *

When I use a pertronix, I keep a known good distributor in the trunk all set up and ready to go. One 11mm wrench, a little timing by ear and you're back on the road again and on your way home to the garage.


A condensor may have...but not points unless the contact fell off the point...then you really should have looked at them a bit sooner.

You keep a whole petronix and distributor in the trunk? So you have two petronix systems??? lol
Points fit in my glovebox....

Rich
Now that would be stupid. I'll clarify. Dizzy loaded up with points and condensor. Do whatever you want, but I personally don't like fiddling with points and I sure don't want to do it on the side of the road. A distributor will fit in your glove box too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Truth be told it was the distributor with screwy contact plates that caused the points rubbing block to wear down to a nothing. I ended up replacing the whole damn thing. With guess what? A dizzy with a Pertronix installed.

I'm done. To each his own.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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r_towle   Multiple Spark systems   May 5 2008, 04:55 PM
brer   I have seen a bolt in twin spark type 4 dizzy. Unf...   May 5 2008, 05:33 PM
Brando   I think he's referring to MSD systems, such as...   May 5 2008, 05:47 PM
SGB   I know one guy who is a real MSD believer. Its go...   May 5 2008, 06:05 PM
Brando   I'm an MSD believer... Running a Hyfire VIA bo...   May 5 2008, 06:09 PM
Heeltoe914   A very good BANG for the buck, You should feel it ...   May 5 2008, 06:34 PM
r_towle   Did any of you experience better mileage, or more ...   May 5 2008, 06:38 PM
blitZ   I had a Mallory Hyfire on my Djet and it just woul...   May 5 2008, 06:58 PM
Smitty911   Looking at doing the same, keeping the points and ...   May 6 2008, 01:26 PM
Brando   Mine works good with the stock l-jet. No probs. I ...   May 6 2008, 01:31 PM
r_towle   Seems to me that Djet is using the trigger point f...   May 6 2008, 01:56 PM
r_towle   Interesting article that says points are ok, but s...   May 6 2008, 02:10 PM
ericread   Why would you stay with points? It seems an odd m...   May 6 2008, 02:17 PM
r_towle   Why would you stay with points? It seems an odd ...   May 6 2008, 03:02 PM
Gint   Why would you stay with points? It seems an odd...   May 6 2008, 09:14 PM
r_towle   [quote name='r_towle' post='1028925' date='May 6 ...   May 6 2008, 09:18 PM
Gint   When I use a pertronix, I keep a known good dist...   May 6 2008, 10:23 PM
Aaron Cox   pertronix + Multi-spark box = flawless operation. ...   May 6 2008, 03:19 PM
Travis Neff   That was Mueller and he got them to work.   May 6 2008, 03:23 PM
jcd914   The reason the points pit is the current flows thr...   May 6 2008, 04:16 PM
Aaron Cox   The reason the points pit is the current flows th...   May 6 2008, 08:12 PM
Krieger914   I have been running the same MSD 6A box for 8 year...   May 6 2008, 10:03 PM
ericread   I know that everyone seems to be tiring of this th...   May 7 2008, 01:20 AM
r_towle   I know that everyone seems to be tiring of this t...   May 7 2008, 12:42 PM
ericread   There is alot of unburnt fuel in our aircooled m...   May 7 2008, 02:50 PM
Travis Neff   A lot of those sytems ignite for 30 degrees of cra...   May 7 2008, 02:13 AM
jasons   A lot of those sytems ignite for 30 degrees of cr...   May 7 2008, 09:09 AM
Travis Neff   You are right on that, but I have to prove that I ...   May 7 2008, 12:15 PM
jasons   You are right on that, but I have to prove that I...   May 7 2008, 12:24 PM


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