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> Wrecked 914 part 2: The insurance offer, Hold your nose
Dr Evil
post May 5 2008, 11:34 AM
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I just got a call from my insurance company. For a 73 914 with an estimated 144,000mi, bucket seats, targa top, power steering, power breaks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)

$4770 with $500 taken away if I keep it for salvage (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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I am not accepting this.....time to check my options.
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post May 7 2008, 12:03 AM
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Maybe you should change your angle and state the car is very similar to an original 6 and ask to valuate in that direction. They might change their tune a little.

Hang in there at the end of the month they are very anxious to settle claims as that unallocated money for a loss is not good for the books
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post May 7 2008, 01:04 AM
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QUOTE(Travis Neff @ May 6 2008, 11:03 PM) *

Maybe you should change your angle and state the car is very similar to an original 6 and ask to valiuate in that direction. They might change their tune a little.

Hang in there at the end of the month they are very anxious to settle claims as that unallocated money for a loss is not good for the books


As I work in Regulatory Audit and Compliance for a really big Insurance company, the real issue is unallocated monies at the end of a quarter, and that usually applies only on fully adjuducated cases. The more pressing issue is the time of adjudication for claims per your state's Department of Insurance requirements. The Ins. company can be significantly fined if they do not meet agreed-upon adjudication timelines (usually 60 to 90 days).

Dr. Evil; The dance has begun. Continue to collect your evidence, and press them for answers and written explanations. Just like a first dance with a young lady, go too fast and they'll pull back their offer; go too slow and they'll think you're dull.

Always have more documentation than the Ins. company expects. The adjusters are just folks that are used to working off of set charts. Your car doesn't fit on the chart. You need to convince them that your chart (evidence) is a better representation of the facts than their chart, and that a third party would easily see it your way. The adjuster is being graded by their abaility to keep claims to a minimum. Getting overturned by an arbitor for a large sum is not to their advantage, and if you convince them of this risk, they are much more likely to offer you a reasonable settlement.

Good luck, and please keep us updated.
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post May 7 2008, 08:24 AM
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QUOTE(ericread @ May 6 2008, 11:04 PM) *

QUOTE(Travis Neff @ May 6 2008, 11:03 PM) *

Maybe you should change your angle and state the car is very similar to an original 6 and ask to valiuate in that direction. They might change their tune a little.

Hang in there at the end of the month they are very anxious to settle claims as that unallocated money for a loss is not good for the books


As I work in Regulatory Audit and Compliance for a really big Insurance company, the real issue is unallocated monies at the end of a quarter, and that usually applies only on fully adjuducated cases. The more pressing issue is the time of adjudication for claims per your state's Department of Insurance requirements. The Ins. company can be significantly fined if they do not meet agreed-upon adjudication timelines (usually 60 to 90 days).

Dr. Evil; The dance has begun. Continue to collect your evidence, and press them for answers and written explanations. Just like a first dance with a young lady, go too fast and they'll pull back their offer; go too slow and they'll think you're dull.

Always have more documentation than the Ins. company expects. The adjusters are just folks that are used to working off of set charts. Your car doesn't fit on the chart. You need to convince them that your chart (evidence) is a better representation of the facts than their chart, and that a third party would easily see it your way. The adjuster is being graded by their abaility to keep claims to a minimum. Getting overturned by an arbitor for a large sum is not to their advantage, and if you convince them of this risk, they are much more likely to offer you a reasonable settlement.

Good luck, and please keep us updated.



I would agree with this mostly, however, when I was a rep for one company the auto guy's (I was a multi-line rep and fell under their scoring radar) were scored on volume of claims settled. There was never a focus on what was "saved for the company as an induvidual" It is harder to track as a method of profitability and illegal to engage in. It's stealing in is simplest term. Why would someone want to try to lowball a car guy? Life is too short to assume people are stupid and will just accept what ever you offer because you have the check book. Not to mention all field notes would be discoverable in the event a company was challenged for a questionable practice.



Now the casualty and property claims dept. was another story.
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Dr Evil   Wrecked 914 part 2: The insurance offer   May 5 2008, 11:34 AM
Headrage   Tell them they are either missing a 1 from the fro...   May 5 2008, 11:39 AM
Joe Mama   Blow me...... Did ya tell them it was a 914/6? ...   May 5 2008, 11:40 AM
brer   :rotfl:   May 5 2008, 11:40 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   not in a million years.   May 5 2008, 11:45 AM
Jeffs9146   This happened to me in 1984 when I wrecked my firs...   May 5 2008, 11:50 AM
rick 918-S   For All my friends. This is not professional advic...   May 5 2008, 11:52 AM
Spoke   ^^^^ I Agree!! make a list of all your ex...   May 5 2008, 12:09 PM
r_towle   Evil, Contact Dr 914...he has a repuation, he can ...   May 5 2008, 12:11 PM
blitZ   Not too surprising. Most insurance companies will...   May 5 2008, 12:22 PM
GWN7   Nov 2007 Excellence values: 914 2.0 1973 so-so ...   May 5 2008, 12:46 PM
ConeDodger   In 2001 I was hit in the right rear by an idiot tr...   May 5 2008, 01:25 PM
dw914er   yea, that offer is way to low. Update us on the ha...   May 5 2008, 01:34 PM
Gint   I haven't read the post yet Mike. I just saw ...   May 5 2008, 04:42 PM
rick 918-S   I haven't read the post yet Mike. I just saw...   May 5 2008, 05:14 PM
Dr Evil   OK, I am home now and can elaborate on what happen...   May 5 2008, 05:13 PM
BKLA   Mike - If it would help, I just sold my 6 conver...   May 5 2008, 05:15 PM
smontanaro   If it would help, I just sold my 6 conversion. I h...   May 5 2008, 08:57 PM
sixnotfour   Or Be sure your insured for what you think its wo...   May 5 2008, 05:24 PM
Dr Evil   Or Be sure your insured for what you think its w...   May 5 2008, 05:32 PM
estwing   Just my $.02 but for older cars, if you don...   May 12 2008, 11:20 AM
Joe Mama   Well then....we now go to the agreed/replacement v...   May 5 2008, 05:29 PM
jd74914   If you wouldn't mind saying, who is your insur...   May 5 2008, 05:36 PM
cobra94563   My nephew wrecked his e30 m3 6 month ago. Insuranc...   May 5 2008, 05:37 PM
Dr Evil   I only want enough to: 1- get good tub 2- repair ...   May 5 2008, 05:37 PM
Gint   My next call would be to a lawyer. Get her name a...   May 5 2008, 05:41 PM
Dr Evil   I hope they are just ignorant. I know they are ign...   May 5 2008, 05:42 PM
Sleepin   My company is USAA and has been fantastic to deal...   May 5 2008, 06:05 PM
ConeDodger   I hope they are just ignorant. I know they are ig...   May 5 2008, 06:44 PM
john grier   Stick to your guns and go slow. You have pic's...   May 5 2008, 06:05 PM
Root_Werks   Evil one, you shouldn't have to get laywers in...   May 5 2008, 06:37 PM
brer   I had a long chat with my USAA rep about insuring ...   May 5 2008, 07:01 PM
scotty b   :stromberg: F insurance companies ! Take your...   May 5 2008, 07:02 PM
Elliot Cannon   B)-->
QUOTE(scotty b @ M...   May 5 2008, 07:27 PM
rick 918-S   I've been on both sides of this fence. USAA is...   May 5 2008, 07:27 PM
Vacca Rabite   USAA will e good to you. Give them the facts and ...   May 5 2008, 07:28 PM
evan   Dr. E, Sorry, I missed this whole ordeal. I have ...   May 5 2008, 07:33 PM
rick 918-S   Check this out. This is a very well recognized and...   May 5 2008, 07:37 PM
scotty b   Check this out. This is a very well recognized an...   May 5 2008, 07:39 PM
rick 918-S   B)-->
QUOTE(scotty b @ M...   May 5 2008, 07:46 PM
Dr Evil   Thanks for the words, bros. It looks as if they lo...   May 5 2008, 08:09 PM
keske968   I also have USAA but have never had to file a clai...   May 5 2008, 09:48 PM
Dr Evil   So the next person in line called me today...or it...   May 6 2008, 05:25 PM
kojo2001   So the next person in line called me today...or i...   May 6 2008, 05:49 PM
biosurfer1   If nothing else, you have one more piece of docume...   May 6 2008, 05:37 PM
sww914   Just keep plugging away and you'll get what yo...   May 6 2008, 05:54 PM
JRust   Didn't you have an offer of 25k a while back E...   May 6 2008, 05:55 PM
rick 918-S   That's the risk of not purchasing collector/cl...   May 6 2008, 06:22 PM
Dr Evil   I figure that I am getting to keep the engine and ...   May 6 2008, 07:43 PM
Root_Werks   This really sucks for you Evil one and I am going ...   May 6 2008, 09:18 PM
ericread   This really sucks for you Evil one and I am going...   May 7 2008, 12:50 AM
McMark   Which makes sense if you're looking at the ca...   May 6 2008, 09:24 PM
Dr Evil   Which makes sense if you're looking at the c...   May 6 2008, 10:29 PM
r_towle   Which makes sense if you're looking at the ...   May 7 2008, 12:07 AM
r_towle   I have a tub if you need. Barter for some tranny w...   May 6 2008, 09:28 PM
firstknight13   :D dr. if it will fit on my truck i will bring it ...   May 6 2008, 11:59 PM
Joe Mama   I'm curious....DOES the insurance policy speci...   May 7 2008, 12:10 AM
Wanna9146   I'm curious....DOES the insurance policy spec...   May 7 2008, 12:33 AM
flat4   It is interesting to see how insurance works there...   May 7 2008, 03:04 AM
Dr Evil   I got the traffic citation this weekend <_< ...   May 11 2008, 09:28 PM
type11969   Weak, the cop never even called to ask my opinion....   May 12 2008, 07:33 AM
Joe Mama   Speeding ticket? That's bogus, get a lawyer a...   May 11 2008, 09:33 PM
Dr Evil   It is marked as "Driving vehicle at unsafe sp...   May 11 2008, 09:37 PM
LvSteveH   It is marked as "Driving vehicle at unsafe s...   May 11 2008, 11:16 PM
brer   [quote name='Dr Evil' post='1030922' date='May 11...   May 12 2008, 11:46 AM
ericread   It is marked as "Driving vehicle at unsafe s...   May 12 2008, 01:24 AM
Phoenix 914-6GT   It is marked as "Driving vehicle at unsafe ...   May 12 2008, 01:33 AM
auerbach   Spoke to George on Saturday and he was all hot to ...   May 11 2008, 11:59 PM
charliew   I had a wreck on my sportster a few years ago. Pro...   May 12 2008, 08:56 AM
effutuo101   The little yellow sign is recommended speed. Not t...   May 12 2008, 10:28 AM
ConeDodger   The little yellow sign is recommended speed. Not ...   May 12 2008, 04:32 PM
szuccaro   Evil, I just went thru something similar last summ...   May 12 2008, 02:25 PM
Dr Evil   I just emailed the lady and sent her the NADA link...   May 12 2008, 02:53 PM
jsayre914   :popcorn:   May 12 2008, 03:04 PM
jfort   slightly OT, but after (actually during) reading t...   May 12 2008, 03:36 PM
DNHunt   We have USAA also and I got referred to American C...   May 12 2008, 03:43 PM
wilchek   I just got a quote from Haggerty for 170.00 with a...   May 12 2008, 04:41 PM
Dr Evil   I just got a quote from Haggerty for 170.00 with ...   May 12 2008, 05:21 PM
type11969   Doesn't Haggerty have significant limitations ...   May 12 2008, 05:39 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   Doesn't Haggerty have significant limitations...   May 12 2008, 05:50 PM
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