CHP gives cliff a smog ticket for his teener Options

[Chris Hamilton]

Has a 2.0 with webers. Sounds like some kind of fixit ticket. Do 1971 teeners have to smog? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) How would a six ever smog since those came with carbs too?

Do we have any california law experts here to explain this?

[biosurfer1]

I know police officer's are supposed to enforce all law's but come on, this guy had SO much time on his hands to pull over a 914 for probably "a puff of smoke", then decides to investigate and write a ticket because the engine is not stock, even though its a pre-smog car?!

99% of the time I'm pro-law enforcement and know they have a tough job but geeze, this guy needs to prioritize his time

[Wes V]

Time for a diatribe and state some facts about smog laws in Calif;

Most of this I know from working on modified Hondas (which the cops like to target)

All smog laws apply to our cars! You can not legally modify any smog related items unless you are using items that have an EO number issued by the state.


1975 and older are not smog excempt! The only break is that we don't have to have smog checks in order to register the car.

EO numbers are certificates that are issued to a part by the state. In order for a manufacturer to get an EO number for their product, they have to pay for extensive testing (BIG bucks) to prove to the state that using that part will not increase smog.

ECU's can not be modified in any manner.

Engine swaps are legal but the rules are extensive and can be tricky. The engine has to be from a car, not truck (a Honda CRV engine is considered a "truck" engine and couldn't be used). The engine has to be from a newer (or same) year car. ALL of the smog related items from the original car have to be included in the swap. Even the orientation matters. If the source engine originally was mounted transversly, you couldn't mount it longtudinally (a VW VR6 only came transversly mounted and as such, you couldn't mount it to a 901 transmission and be legal)

If you had an original 914/6 and put in a latter 911 engine, you would also have to have all of the smog equipment that came with that engine.

How do I know all this shit?? Well, my last project car was a 89 Honda Civic and I swapped in a 95 Acura Integra GSR motor.

To do the swap and be legal, I had to convert the EFI to the OBD1 system used in the Integra. I then had to go to the state Referee Station to have the swap "certified". Once the swap has been totally checked (and a smog check is performed), a label is attached to the car (by the referee) stating that future smog checks are to be performed as if it's a 95 Integra. Any aftermarket parts have have EO numbers that apply to the original source car (the headers were DC Sport, with EO numbers for the Integra)

The big thing however is that the cops like to check out the Honda guys. Us 914 guys are more "respectable" and less prone to get checked.

All that said, I'm planning on putting an Audi V6 in my 1975 914. I've kept the idea of having to pass the Referee process though all of my planning, should it become an issue.

Wes Vann

[r_towle]

Time for a diatribe and state some facts about smog laws in Calif;

1975 and older are not smog excempt! The only break is that we don't have to have smog checks in order to register the car.

Wes Vann

Just curious.
A pre 1975 car never has to open the hood for an inspection, visual nor smog?
If that is true, I would always ask for a search warrant.
If a 914/4 shows up with a carbed 914/6 motor, that probably produces more smog...that is ok, considering it would have all the original "smog" equipment...meaning none..??

Rich

[So.Cal.914]

Time for a diatribe and state some facts about smog laws in Calif;

1975 and older are not smog excempt! The only break is that we don't have to have smog checks in order to register the car.

Wes Vann

Just curious.
A pre 1975 car never has to open the hood for an inspection, visual nor smog?
If that is true, I would always ask for a search warrant.
If a 914/4 shows up with a carbed 914/6 motor, that probably produces more smog...that is ok, considering it would have all the original "smog" equipment...meaning none..??

Rich

The engine has to be from a newer (or same) year car. ALL of the smog related items from the original car have to be included in the swap.

From his list. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)