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> can`t even stop 2 P, WHAT R U RUN`N
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post May 20 2008, 10:20 AM
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One session and they where mush and just keep get`n worse Thought they would cool and get maybe a little back but NO
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post May 20 2008, 11:16 AM
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Brake fade?
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post May 20 2008, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE(Rand @ May 20 2008, 10:16 AM) *

Brake fade?


WINNER WINNER you get the award because you figured it out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) great minds think alike....once again guys....... thanks for the input
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QUOTE(6freak @ May 20 2008, 11:08 AM) *

QUOTE(Rand @ May 20 2008, 10:16 AM) *

Brake fade?


WINNER WINNER you get the award because you figured it out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) great minds think alike....once again guys....... thanks for the input



Heat buildup can cause alot of problems.

* Do you still have the big metal splash guards on? They get hot and hold the heat in your rotors & calipers. like little brake ovens (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)
Take them off if you haven't already.

* Brake coolers? These kits to route air into the center of the vented rotor help alot.

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* I use ATE Blue and have no problems but change out annually. I've heard MOTUL is good but have no experience with it.

Did you bleed the proportioning valve too? That little gem can give you all sorts of grief if it still has air in it.

Pads. with all of the above, I still had fade with 'good pads' until I switched to Pagid Orange....


Let us know what you find and what fixes your problems...

I had some brake issues recently and it ended up being a frozen piston in one of the front calipers. Was real exciting first high speed lap on practice day!!


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post May 20 2008, 12:48 PM
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QUOTE(race914 @ May 20 2008, 11:24 AM) *

QUOTE(6freak @ May 20 2008, 11:08 AM) *

QUOTE(Rand @ May 20 2008, 10:16 AM) *

Brake fade?


WINNER WINNER you get the award because you figured it out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) great minds think alike....once again guys....... thanks for the input



Heat buildup can cause alot of problems.

* Do you still have the big metal splash guards on? They get hot and hold the heat in your rotors & calipers. like little brake ovens (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)
Take them off if you haven't already.

* Brake coolers? These kits to route air into the center of the vented rotor help alot.

Attached Image

* I use ATE Blue and have no problems but change out annually. I've heard MOTUL is good but have no experience with it.

Did you bleed the proportioning valve too? That little gem can give you all sorts of grief if it still has air in it.

Pads. with all of the above, I still had fade with 'good pads' until I switched to Pagid Orange....


Let us know what you find and what fixes your problems...

I had some brake issues recently and it ended up being a frozen piston in one of the front calipers. Was real exciting first high speed lap on practice day!!

yes splash guards on but not for long good idea..I did use the blue but just changed to the MOTUL heard it was better?? Pagid orange will be ordered tonite for sure.Do they squeel? , .how can i tell the proportion valve thing if its not bled proper..will the vent kit work with a stock front valance?..Thanks
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post May 20 2008, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(6freak @ May 20 2008, 11:48 AM) *

QUOTE(race914 @ May 20 2008, 11:24 AM) *

QUOTE(6freak @ May 20 2008, 11:08 AM) *

QUOTE(Rand @ May 20 2008, 10:16 AM) *

Brake fade?


WINNER WINNER you get the award because you figured it out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) great minds think alike....once again guys....... thanks for the input



Heat buildup can cause alot of problems.

* Do you still have the big metal splash guards on? They get hot and hold the heat in your rotors & calipers. like little brake ovens (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)
Take them off if you haven't already.

* Brake coolers? These kits to route air into the center of the vented rotor help alot.

Attached Image

* I use ATE Blue and have no problems but change out annually. I've heard MOTUL is good but have no experience with it.

Did you bleed the proportioning valve too? That little gem can give you all sorts of grief if it still has air in it.

Pads. with all of the above, I still had fade with 'good pads' until I switched to Pagid Orange....


Let us know what you find and what fixes your problems...

I had some brake issues recently and it ended up being a frozen piston in one of the front calipers. Was real exciting first high speed lap on practice day!!

yes splash guards on but not for long good idea..I did use the blue but just changed to the MOTUL heard it was better?? Pagid orange will be ordered tonite for sure.Do they squeel? , .how can i tell the proportion valve thing if its not bled proper..will the vent kit work with a stock front valance?..Thanks


I'd probably start chasing the problem in this order.

1. Take off the splash guards.

2. Bleed brakes again. I agree with the post above, you may need to bleed several times if there is any residual moisture, etc.

3. Bleed the proportioning valve. Search here for threads. I use a Motive brake bleeder and tap the proportioning valve lightly to dislodge any bubbles while bleeding the back calipers. Do a search though, I'm sure there are better methods : )

Then try the brakes again. I wouldn't change out the pads or add the coolers right away. See if the above makes an improvement first.

Also, if the brakes work if you keep pumping them. And if the pedal slowly goes down if you apply constant pressure while sitting still, you may have a master cylinder going bad. If you change that out, upgrade to the 19mm unit.
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6freak   can`t even stop 2 P   May 20 2008, 10:20 AM
purple   :WTF:   May 20 2008, 11:03 AM
ericread   :agree: :WTF: However; A winner in the "B...   May 20 2008, 11:05 AM
Rand   Brake fade?   May 20 2008, 11:16 AM
So.Cal.914   Brake fade? That's what I think too.   May 20 2008, 11:21 AM
6freak   Brake fade? WINNER WINNER you get the award...   May 20 2008, 12:08 PM
race914   Brake fade? WINNER WINNER you get the awar...   May 20 2008, 12:24 PM
6freak   [quote name='6freak' post='1034358' date='May 20 ...   May 20 2008, 12:48 PM
race914   [quote name='6freak' post='1034358' date='May 20...   May 20 2008, 12:58 PM
6freak   [quote name='6freak' post='1034382' date='May 20 ...   May 20 2008, 01:27 PM
6freak   [quote name='6freak' post='1034358' date='May 20 ...   May 20 2008, 12:59 PM
race914   [quote name='6freak' post='1034358' date='May 20...   May 20 2008, 01:04 PM
So.Cal.914   Heat buildup can cause alot of problems. ...   May 20 2008, 04:50 PM
purple   Oh yeah, now that you say..... stock brakes rebui...   May 20 2008, 11:24 AM
Rand   Are you already 5-lug? Some vented rotors, Porterf...   May 20 2008, 11:34 AM
6freak   Are you already 5-lug? Some vented rotors, Porter...   May 20 2008, 12:54 PM
SLITS   One session and they where mush and just keep get...   May 20 2008, 11:37 AM
6freak   One session and they where mush and just keep ge...   May 20 2008, 11:57 AM
Vacca Rabite   http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/sczmaster33...   May 20 2008, 11:42 AM
ericread   http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/sczmaster3...   May 20 2008, 11:58 AM
6freak   [quote name='Vacca Rabite' post='1034342' date='M...   May 20 2008, 12:13 PM
orange914   http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n71/sczmaster3...   May 20 2008, 08:41 PM
purple   Nice pic.... ARent braided lines unsafe for not b...   May 20 2008, 12:08 PM
6freak   Nice pic.... ARent braided lines unsafe for not ...   May 20 2008, 12:34 PM
Cap'n Krusty   Nice pic.... ARent braided lines unsafe for not...   May 20 2008, 01:15 PM
ericread   Pagid orange will be ordered tonite for sure.Do ...   May 20 2008, 01:26 PM
naro914   Just to throw this out there....but.... if you...   May 20 2008, 01:47 PM
6freak   Just to throw this out there....but.... if you...   May 20 2008, 03:47 PM
6freak   [quote name='naro914' post='1034413' date='May 20...   May 20 2008, 04:10 PM
naro914   Holy smokes batman I watch that blue and yellow 6 ...   May 20 2008, 10:00 PM
Elliot Cannon   "SAY WHAT AGAIN!" "I DARE YOU...   May 20 2008, 02:13 PM
purple   oh man, if you want to have some fun with SLJ, the...   May 20 2008, 02:15 PM
sww914   FYI, I've had the same braided flex lines in m...   May 20 2008, 03:21 PM
6freak   FYI, I've had the same braided flex lines in ...   May 20 2008, 04:28 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   Your problem is not in your braking system. It is...   May 20 2008, 04:36 PM
jhadler   Ducting, ducting, ducting... Fresh good fluid, an...   May 20 2008, 04:55 PM
Crazyhippy   Dont use the brakes so much... People used to rac...   May 20 2008, 05:07 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   Just get them bled well and we can talk about it o...   May 20 2008, 05:53 PM
Eric_Shea   Race914, Josh and Dan have nailed it. If you simp...   May 20 2008, 07:12 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   M calipers and vented SC rotors on the front with ...   May 20 2008, 07:17 PM
brant   I'm kinda late to the party spent the last 5 d...   May 21 2008, 07:36 AM
naro914   I agree in theory with Brant, especially if your c...   May 21 2008, 08:17 AM
6freak   I agree in theory with Brant, especially if your ...   May 21 2008, 09:52 AM
6freak   I agree in theory with Brant, especially if your...   May 29 2008, 01:22 PM
rhodyguy   no mention of speed bleeders. you using them? make...   May 21 2008, 09:45 AM
roundboy914   quick 'hi Jack' - where can one purchase t...   May 21 2008, 03:05 PM
Eric_Shea   I see you've finally stopped to P... now you...   May 29 2008, 03:28 PM
brant   agreed bleeding again won't fix your sticking ...   May 29 2008, 11:07 PM
6freak   agreed bleeding again won't fix your sticking...   May 30 2008, 09:35 AM
carr914   quick 'hi Jack' - where can one purchase ...   May 30 2008, 07:22 AM


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