OT: Water injection improving gas mileage?, Anyone doing it? Alot of scams with it. Just curious Options

[JRust]

So I have tried a water injection system before. It was about 5 years ago & we used it on a few cars. My father in law started it. It was supposed to use distilled water. We had mixed results with the cars we tried. Along with our mechanic who tried some too. Eventually the support just wasn't there & we quit the project. We did see a noticable jump in response on their park avenue. It would seriously throw you back in your seat when the system was on. It did not improve gas mileage though. I noticed a decent increase in response in my 240sx. Mileage improved on that also from low 20's to high to low 30's. The system seemed to be faulty though. It would work for a week then quit. I couldn't keep it working & although my mechanic was great with everything. The company which I am kicking myself for not remembering just didn't support their product, They tried to help at first but definately gave up.

So I do think there is merit here with water injection. I am just wondering if anyone is using it? If they are what system are they using? Is it just a total crock & a scammers dream?

[mel reckling]

Although there are a lot of questions about Brown's gas, it's hard not to be impressed with the work Hydrogen Technologies did in developing the water torch/welder and the on-the-fly HHO extraction system. They have had a few vehicles that worked pretty well. If I could scrape together the $7,500 to buy one of their units, I'd convert my house to get off natural gas dependancy. The stuff does burn and burn cleanly.

Personally, I believe the government and big oil is scared to death and is pigeon-holing us into a potentially dangerous situation. I believe they want us using hydrogen pumped from huge tanks where potential 'mini-Hindenbergs' will scare the public away from the technology. The mental picture of some hillbilly self-serving his car/truck yacking on his cell phone while not paying attention taking out a city block makes my skin crawl. The idea that a car could run 100 miles on 4 ounces of water has got to scare Exxon/Mobil to death. Sure would make the 'Peak oil' myth disappear quickly.

The gas price crisis can be solved overnight quite easily. The rash of speculators who have jumped into the commodities market(none of who are playing it short), who have caused the oil price to skyrocket by way of rumors and false shortages and control over 1 billion barrels currently, can be shaken out of the market by a few simple steps. First, they have to re-instate the controls to where they were before June 2000, taking oil out of the commodities market. Or, because of the ability to margin a barrel of oil for $8(or in simple terms 16x the money you put up), force the speculators to take delivery of the product. None of these people are oil people and have no facilities to store the amounts they purchase. It's as simple as saying "You just bought $150 million of oil, back your tanker up to the dock". If you can't prove you have the ability to do this, you can't play in the pool.

Windfall profit taxes on the oil companies would only give our government more money to waste. The money should go back to the consumer who has paid through the nose. Make the companies sell 'at cost' for a year to level out their obscene profits they have been seeing. That would get their attention.

There are probably a lot of scams out there, but the HHO system looks like it could work. I am currently looking for a beater car to try it on.

Just my $.02.